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ricardobenin70 ricardobenin70
New User | Posts: 16 | Joined: 05/14
Posted: 05/04/14
09:09 PM

Hi I just bought my car with little dings here and there but the wort dent is in the door so I bought some polyester finishing and blending putty which is from proline performance products and when I looked at tech sheet it is made from evercoat but from what I heard is it is a good product as it is a putty that requires a catalyst. Any ways my plan of actin is to use a stud welder and use 80 grit sand paper to remove paint. Here is pic of door ding as well as putty please let me know if the putty I got is any good. In the pics I posted I put guide coat on dent and sanded to show the damage better. Please tell me how to approach the fix.
Thanks  

ricardobenin70 ricardobenin70
New User | Posts: 16 | Joined: 05/14
Posted: 05/04/14
09:26 PM

Here is the pics.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwokklK9MRwkV09SSmljTTY0X0E/edit?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwokklK9MRwkdlFQemVTZ0hxNzA/edit?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwokklK9MRwkRTBJeXlvWm1GU00/edit?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwokklK9MRwkTktLUWNBYThNQ1U/edit?usp=sharing  

ricardobenin70 ricardobenin70
New User | Posts: 16 | Joined: 05/14
Posted: 05/04/14
09:26 PM

Here is the pics.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwokklK9MRwkV09SSmljTTY0X0E/edit?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwokklK9MRwkdlFQemVTZ0hxNzA/edit?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwokklK9MRwkRTBJeXlvWm1GU00/edit?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwokklK9MRwkTktLUWNBYThNQ1U/edit?usp=sharing  

ricardobenin70 ricardobenin70
New User | Posts: 16 | Joined: 05/14
Posted: 05/04/14
09:27 PM

Here is the pics.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwokklK9MRwkV09SSmljTTY0X0E/edit?usp=sharing


https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwokklK9MRwkdlFQemVTZ0hxNzA/edit?usp=sharing


https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwokklK9MRwkRTBJeXlvWm1GU00/edit?usp=sharing


https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwokklK9MRwkTktLUWNBYThNQ1U/edit?usp=sharing  

ricardobenin70 ricardobenin70
New User | Posts: 16 | Joined: 05/14
Posted: 05/04/14
09:28 PM

Sorry about that it posted three times.  

wayne712222 wayne712222
User | Posts: 121 | Joined: 10/13
Posted: 05/04/14
09:32 PM

photobucket images link easier..

by the way..  

ricardobenin70 ricardobenin70
New User | Posts: 16 | Joined: 05/14
Posted: 05/04/14
09:47 PM

Yeah my brother just told me that as he looked at my posting.
Thanks  

wayne712222 wayne712222
User | Posts: 121 | Joined: 10/13
Posted: 05/05/14
12:00 AM

that door is really really kinked..  you might want to spend a LOT more time smoothing the wrinkles out before trying to cover the kink with filler..

do have some options..

replace the door..  with a good one..  MUCH easier to fix.. you did not mention a year..  and they have made RX7 models since the late 70s or so..  you might even find one of the same color..

or.. take the door completely off.. strip the inner panel and trim off it.. attach your name on a decent tag..  have a body shop smooth the door alone..  

a BYOD sort of effect..   usually when a door has a kink that bad.. body guys may use their special tooling for the port a power and give the door skin a little stretch.. while pounding the kink out..  i have done this a few times myself..  but i am not a professional body man.  

ricardobenin70 ricardobenin70
New User | Posts: 16 | Joined: 05/14
Posted: 05/05/14
12:33 AM

Yeah my plan is to work the dents out more but I was thinking of using a stud welder to put a stud in the low spots and pull stud with t handle while I use a body hammer to hit the highs until they become more even. What I posted above is after I used some pdr tools like glue tabs which worker really well but now it is getting harder since there is creases and the skin material is very thin. But the year of the car is 1993.
Thanks  

idrivejunk idrivejunk
Guru | Posts: 1050 | Joined: 12/09
Posted: 05/05/14
04:22 PM

car-part dot com is an easy to use website where you should be able to locate a replacement for a couple hundred dollars. Here is a link to that site:

http://www.car-part.com/

You cannot properly fix that door for less money. The skin is stretched far too badly and the intrusion beam may be bent. Any time spent trying to fix that door is wasted. I am an experienced professional auto body technician and that is my opinion. The metal is too thin and too stretched out to be worth repairing at all.

If you want to go ahead and try to fix it wrong (what a mess), take back the poly putty and get some actual bodyfiller. The stuff you bought is for pinholes or deep scratches in body filler, you should not attempt to build a door skin with it. It may be OK quality but if it is made by Evercoat which is top quality, and not wearing the Evercoat label, it is a lesser quality product.

If you decide to proceed against my advice and try to fix that door, just rough it up with 80 grit and put about half a gallon of bodyfiller over the entire door face. Then sand that flat. Theres not much logic in a novice trying to make it better with a stud gun, but there is a chance of making it worse.  
idrivejunk

ricardobenin70 ricardobenin70
New User | Posts: 16 | Joined: 05/14
Posted: 05/05/14
05:32 PM

Hi I just checked the web site you posted and they don't have a door, trying to find parts for that car are very hard to find as lots of the parts have been discontinued   and there is not a lot of 93+ rx7 out there so I am probably going to keep looking for a door but I did check the intrusion beam to see if it was bent and it is not as I compared measurements to my other rx7 which is the same but the dent was from a pole when the door was swung open as it was the original owners grand daughter who did it. Also I was going to use the glazing putty to put over the body filler but since you said it is to far to be fixed I may be going a different route.
Thanks  

ricardobenin70 ricardobenin70
New User | Posts: 16 | Joined: 05/14
Posted: 05/05/14
05:33 PM

Hi I just checked the web site you posted and they don't have a door, trying to find parts for that car are very hard to find as lots of the parts have been discontinued   and there is not a lot of 93+ rx7 out there so I am probably going to keep looking for a door but I did check the intrusion beam to see if it was bent and it is not as I compared measurements to my other rx7 which is the same but the dent was from a pole when the door was swung open as it was the original owners grand daughter who did it. Also I was going to use the glazing putty to put over the body filler but since you said it is to far to be fixed I may be going a different route.
Thanks  

idrivejunk idrivejunk
Guru | Posts: 1050 | Joined: 12/09
Posted: 05/05/14
05:40 PM

Since the beam is still OK, you might check with a Mazda dealer to see if a skin is offered. That would be a good fix. The best bet on finding a door is to keep checking back for a few weeks because the one day you search for something may be the only day it isn't there. Best of luck!  
idrivejunk

ricardobenin70 ricardobenin70
New User | Posts: 16 | Joined: 05/14
Posted: 05/05/14
06:09 PM

Ok thanks for all the help.
BTW I have some other dings that I am working on and what body filler would you use, I was thinking of using rage gold or quantum both from evercoat keep in mind that I am going to use the glaze putty on top that I bought.
Thanks  

ricardobenin70 ricardobenin70
New User | Posts: 16 | Joined: 05/14
Posted: 05/05/14
06:11 PM

Ok thanks for all the help.
BTW I have some other dings that I am working on and what body filler would you use, I was thinking of using rage gold or quantum both from evercoat keep in mind that I am going to use the glaze putty on top that I bought.
Thanks  

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