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what is the difference between dual plane and single plane intakes?

 
hotrodmaniac hotrodmaniac
New User | Posts: 47 | Joined: 01/10
Posted: 01/21/10
06:54 PM

what is the difference between single plane and dual plane intake manifolds? I was wondering and i just cant find no body that knows.  
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mitchjames mitchjames
New User | Posts: 3 | Joined: 01/10
Posted: 01/21/10
07:49 PM

dual planes have a dividing wall inside the manifold creating a smaller plenum area(the space inside the manifold that each individual runner pulls air from).  single planes as their name implies only have one large plenum area. larger plenums increase the available air and potential horsepower through increased rpms. this is assumming the heads flow well enough to need this.  for lower rpm use a smaller plenum(dual plane)  offers better throttle response as velocity is increased through the smaller area. single planes are not generally considered for street use but for race use as  part throttle operation is less critical. also engines that need a single plane are usually large flow heads with high rpm cams. these usually do not provide adequet vacume for power brakes etc. single planes can be used effectivly on the street but generally only on engines that were designed with that in mind.  

tuffnuff tuffnuff
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Posted: 01/21/10
08:04 PM

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mitch,,,
I copied and pasted a portion of your post, I think you meant to say, that, "single" planes are not generally considered for street use,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,.

this is your post below.
dual planes are not generally considered for street use but for race use as  part,,,
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idrivejunk idrivejunk
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Posted: 01/21/10
08:18 PM

+2 yep yep good explanation Laugh  
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mistermisfit-#002 mistermisfit-#002
User | Posts: 95 | Joined: 01/07
Posted: 01/21/10
08:34 PM

Pretty good explanation. I would add that on a dual plane intake the drivers side of the plenum feeds the passenger side cylinder bank and the passenger side plenum feeds the drivers side. It has to do something with increasing runner length for greater torque if I am not mistaken.  

tuffnuff tuffnuff
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Posted: 01/21/10
09:06 PM

+1
Tuned runner length pulsed for velocity and torque
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mitchjames mitchjames
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Posted: 01/21/10
10:06 PM

Edited post. forgot to think about runner length. anything posted under my name in this forum is open to be copied and used elsewhere.  

tuffnuff tuffnuff
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Posted: 01/21/10
10:32 PM

right on mitch, nice post
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gettnlarge01 gettnlarge01
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Posted: 01/22/10
04:23 AM

+1  
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Posted: 01/22/10
07:27 AM

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TheSilverBuick TheSilverBuick
Guru | Posts: 1227 | Joined: 02/06
Posted: 01/24/10
07:29 PM

Single Plane on the left (no divider in the Plenum), Dual Plane on the right (divider in the Plenum)

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TheSilverBuick TheSilverBuick
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Posted: 01/24/10
07:37 PM

Icon Quotemistermisfit:
Pretty good explanation. I would add that on a dual plane intake the drivers side of the plenum feeds the passenger side cylinder bank and the passenger side plenum feeds the drivers side. It has to do something with increasing runner length for greater torque if I am not mistaken.

The dual plane also keeps the air from getting lazy and the fuel settling out in the ports as the piston pulls air/fuel from a smaller volume, so air speed stays higher in the port (wet flow) and quicker vacuum signal to the carb for rpm changes.  I run a dry flow in my larger single plane intake (fuel is introduced at the port) so I don't get the lazy air bog at lower rpms that single planes can create with a carb (or TBI).  
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bigbubbabaker bigbubbabaker
New User | Posts: 1 | Joined: 11/12
Posted: 11/17/12
08:13 PM

I'm building a 350 chevy engine to put in a 85 chevy truck for truck pulls. what kind of intake should I use, dual or single plane.low speed high RPM (around 7000)  

68scott385 68scott385
Enthusiast | Posts: 669 | Joined: 05/09
Posted: 11/18/12
01:31 PM

single, because of normal operating range...7000rpm  
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pepsi1 pepsi1
Enthusiast | Posts: 301 | Joined: 10/11
Posted: 11/18/12
03:45 PM

A single plenum is used for an engine like yours where the engine really has No sweet spot.Plus Higher RPM.... Grin  Cool  

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