Waht is up with the recent gas price soar?Why are so many people suddenly trying to stop older cars from being on the road?  

That's a question with an answer more complicated than this forum can really do justice to.

Beyond that, it gets into issues of political and moral belief that can cause arguments.

Do you really expect an answer?  

TheFuzzBaiter:
Waht is up with the recent gas price soar?Why are so many people suddenly trying to stop older cars from being on the road?

Part of the answer to the expanding war against "older cars . . . being on the road" is found at this link.

The people who are pushing this anti-freedom power-grab are the same sorts of "we know better than you" folks that proudly scooted around in a wheezing VW Beetle or Fiat 124 or Geo Metro or bone-stock Honda Civic back in high school (if they even drove at all), while all the "irresponsible" kids hung out in V8 Mustangs, Camaros, GTOs and other "bitchin’" "hot rods, "muscle cars" or "tuner whips."

These elites view us hot rodders and car collectors as enemies of the "Planet."

They dream and scheme to plunge us back into the dismal "automotive dark ages" of the 1970s again (or worse).

We must fight laws at the local and state level which raise unreasonable barriers to grassroots motorsports and high performance (Joining SEMA ACTION NETWORKis a crucial first step).

We must fight together for our rights or we will all hang separately (metaphorically speaking).  

I do less harm to the environment by keeping an old car on the road than I would buying a new car every 2 years  

Why high gas prices?

--The government hasn't let anyone build a new refinery in 25 years,

--The greeniacs and their lap dogs in Congress won't allow drilling in most places where the U.S. oil reserves are largest,

--Ultra low sulphur diesel has dramatically increased refining costs, which increases the cost of everything that's shipped in a truck,

--China and India are using vast amounts more fuel (and all we got in return was to box up our quality manufacturing jobs, some lousy cheap pieces of stinky plastic covered in lead paint at Wal-Mart (a/k/a your local Chinese trade consulate),  and some telephone computer "support" from some dude you can't understand and sounds sort of like the guy running the local "American Owned"  motel or a quickie mart),  

--The oil companies are doing their best to suppress the best natural racing fuel known to man (alcohol) while the politicians are trying to force insignificant amounts of it made from expensive corn into fuel additives for boring, weak-sister FWD cars that don't need it,

--We've spent a TRILLION DOLLARS on war since 2003 but we didn't even bother to SEIZE ONE OIL FIELD (not that we could have done that) or arrange even one "good guy" deal for guaranteed supply (that's the thanks we get for spreading the bodeacious fruits of liberty (such as lousy Hollywood remakes, ultra-violent video games, Paris Hilton, Jessica Simpson, Brittney Spears, Abercrombie and Fitch/Victoria's Secret skivies, MTV, NASCAR, Big Macs and artery-clogging Super-Sized fries, hip-hop, internet porn . . . .)

--Freedom hating maniacs in the Middle East, Africa and South America control too much of the World's oil,

--Speculators and hedge funds (who do not find, produce, refine or retail any oil products) drive up the price of oil futures contracts in order to make a quick buck and perhaps ensure a pro-internationalist, liberal political sea change in the U.S. government . . . .  

Well said.  But I saw where one of the Dakotas voted to permit a new refinery this week.

I just hope we get some more "turbo friendly" E85 in the system one of these days.

And I think the Ethanol Boosting Systems direct ethanol injection on demand idea bears further study as both a fuel saver and a performance booster.  

the gas prices are ridiculous and as for old cars running i havnt heard of that one but old cars i believe pelute the air more then new cars so that might be a good thing.  

LanceUppercut:
the gas prices are ridiculous and as for old cars running i havnt heard of that one but old cars i believe pelute the air more then new cars so that might be a good thing.

I jes HAIT DAT AR PELUTE-sHUn . . . .


It's posts like this that make the battle seem already lost.

Note that how we define "pollution" is critical. The bureaucrats are trying to define "pollution" to include carbon dioxide (Oops, I just exhaled and fogged out a bunch more "pollution").

If we limit our discussion to exclude C02 as a pollutant, your lawnmower and your Harley-Davidson "pollute" more than a lot of "old" cars.   And the vast majority of the "old" cars we're interested in are not driven daily. Except for perhaps some evaporative emissions on pre-1970s models, "old" cars don't pollute at all when not being driven.

Also missing from the handwringing is the evironmental impact of manufacturing a "new" "less polluting car.  Freiburger explored this concept in an editorial for that bastion of "old car evil," Hot Rod Magazine.

And an old "hot rod" "pollutes" a whale of a lot less than a private jet or the junket aircraft used by the power-hungry politicos who are ramming all of this "Kyoto" climate change nonsense down our collective throats. (Or the huge electric generators that are powering the computers of the greeniacs as they lobby to cripple Car Crafting, motorsports and other automotive pastimes . . . or the massive container ships, trains and tractor/trailers that ship all of that cheap Chinese junk we don't need)

Just imagine how much fun Car Crafting will be when we're all forced by the People's Republic of "Kalifornia" and the FEDs into uniform 45-50 mpg microcars . . . .