As I recall, they were pulling pieces of the pistons from the cieling. I didn't say it can't be done, just stating, it's not going to be reliable. I could build it, post the number, and it would destroy itself a little every time you hit that button. Not sure how many times it would take, but it will let go.  

Well If you would read My posts I have a scrap pile of junk cast Scat cranks that say NO they will not handle whatever you throw at them . Now you can either believe that or what you choose to think because of your experience . Hey your decision . In your case it held up greaT FOR YOU !I on the other hand have a pile of warranty cranks that have been split in two because someone over did it . With too much nitrous 200 + shots , supercharging or in some cases heavy towing loads. But you seem to to be the genius here you have him buy that cast crank. Oh and your Mustang had Forged pistons , it was 86  right ? They were forged. Good luck to ya . I know I do not want to follow your burnout because the clean up one of these days is going to be time consuming.

86 had cast pistons, all the carb ones did, @ when F.I came out they went to forged. I have a 84 I'm looking at and they are cast. I think your full of it, why would you warranty cranks that have been abused? What kind of warranty are you giving, cuase most house give less than 30 days against workmanship, not abuse. I called Speedomotive who sells a hell of a lot of their own brand of cast 383 cranks where people use nitrous and have had few to no failures. PAW and Strokers .com said the same thing,  They all said the pistons usually go first before any crank does. Oh and all those shops that advertise 450hp on cast cranks, they must be crazy also. So the ones that advertise 600 must be out of there minds.

People send them back to us because they installed them and are making warranty claims. We do not tell them to put them in with nitrous or superchargers or heavy towing anymore either. The only ones who do claim They "have done it all of the time" and then when they pop we submit the claim to the manufacterer who then denies it. In the mean time we hold the cranks and related blown up parts while they await dispensation. Is all this too complicated for you too handle because you do not seem to be grasping it very well. I never said that stock cast cranks were bad I said 383 cast cranks have a nasty habit of splitting. Also do you really think Speed-o-motive has their own crankshaft factory ? I hope that you realise that they are merely buying the same chinese castings as everyone else. Also for the record I reccomend cast replacement cranks all of the time they are cheaper than a core charge and crank kit on a turned factory crank. They often will have $200 (350 1 piece rear main seal app.) to $300 (454 2piece rear main app.) core charges and if someone went a bit too long with no oil well then they are better off buying a new cast crank . IN A STOCK APPLICATION . Also all 302 pistons in 85 and up were forged . Another fact you have wrong was 86 GT's were fuel injected. They were not carberated. These are facts not my opinion. You just will not listen to anyone else . You and your snot green type color obnoxious font and wonderful attitude, Professor Knowitall.  

People send them back to us because they installed them and are making warranty claims. We do not tell them to put them in with nitrous or superchargers or heavy towing anymore either. The only ones who do claim They "have done it all of the time" and then when they pop we submit the claim to the manufacterer who then denies it. In the mean time we hold the cranks and related blown up parts while they await dispensation. Is all this too complicated for you too handle because you do not seem to be grasping it very well. I never said that stock cast cranks were bad I said 383 cast cranks have a nasty habit of splitting.  And I say that is the eception not the rule. Also do you really think Speed-o-motive has their own crankshaft factory ? Never said they did, just said " I called Speedomotive who sells a hell of a lot of their own brand of cast 383 cranks where people use nitrous and have had few to no failures."  I hope that you realise that they are merely buying the same chinese castings as everyone else.  So there "own brand" means what again? Also for the record I reccomend cast replacement cranks all of the time they are cheaper than a core charge and crank kit on a turned factory crank. They often will have $200 (350 1 piece rear main seal app.) to $300 (454 2piece rear main app.) core charges and if someone went a bit too long with no oil well then they are better off buying a new cast crank . IN A STOCK APPLICATION . Again, I disagree, I have done different, and you ahve done nothing but look at the aftermath, not know if the guy is telling you everyting. Also all 302 pistons in 85 and up were forged . Another fact you have wrong was 86 GT's were fuel injected. They were not carberated.  Again I said "  86' Carburated if I remember correctly"  So I'm wrong cuase I don't remember correctly. It could have been 86, 85, 84, but I do know it was carburated, and had cast pistons, now you are changing you story cuase you said the only years for cast were " if I am not mistaken 5.0 GT engines with the exception of the 92-3 were forged piston engines, not cast as you stated. 92 and 93 were cast hypereutectic " so if I'm wrong, shot me but shot yourself first. These are facts not my opinion. You just will not listen to anyone else . These are facts according to you. You and your snot green type color obnoxious font and wonderful attitude, Professor Knowitall. Mr. Professor Knowitall if you don't mind. Awe, u hoowt my poo little feelings. Glad you like the color, I pick it just for you. I'm wondering, at a football game, when the team is in a huddle, do you ever think they are talking about you?  

You know I think that discussing things with you is like wrestling with a pig. I get dirty and the pig just enjoys it. Have fun with your life. Oh and as for the football game comment goes...I do not think they are talking about me, you however seem to think they are playing FOR you.  

**applaudes**

You know I think that discussing things with you is like wrestling with a pig. I get dirty and the pig just enjoys it. Spesking for the pig, yes you have been a worthy advisory, I have enjoyed battling witts with you and my hats off to you, but I still disgree with you, and I see I have had the same effect on you. You still disagree with me. Have fun with your life. yes you to my friend off to the sunset we go, don't look back. I must get back to blowing up engines. Thank you very much. Oh and as for the football game comment goes...I do not think they are talking about me, you however seem to think they are playing FOR you Oooooooh nooooo, I am competing with the SUN to be the center of the universe, that keeps me busy most of the day. ( and yes I change the color for you, <smooch> oxoxoxo) In all seriousness, I had fun debating with you, and can see your point, but still have not change my mind, based on my hands on experences with a hand gernade motor. Maybe CC seattle this by doing a feature story on this, they can build a claimer motor (cast pistons,cast crank), a decent motor (forged pistons, cast crank), and an all out high dollar motor (forged pistons, forged crank, premium aftermarket rods), and squeeze the piss out all three to find their limits, and tune it accordingly. Whata u think??????  

Oh and BTW  ~Gibs, my offer still stands, "Bite ME." LOL  

First off, he's way smarter than to bite you, ####.
Secondly, everything we've said here is true, sure you can assemble a cast crank 383 and squirt it. But it won't live long. Also, all 5.0 H.O. motors, after the 82 model year have forged pistons, till the last one was sold in 92.
I wish you well in pulling your head from your ass.
Have a nice day.  

"...Maybe CC seattle this by doing a feature story on this, they can build a claimer motor (cast pistons,cast crank)..."

They did several years ago... Chrysler 318.  The cast slugs broke up and melted.  It was a 'filler' story... nothing new was learned from it.

Ok first off I got the cam that my dad had in his firebird this past week it has .465 lift and 302 duration @ 50. and secondly I also ordered my holley fuel pump last thursday so it should be here by the time I get home from work And next, The block I'm starting with is a high nickle block I am planing on using a forged stroker crank the cast info I wanted was for now while I'm running the cast one. 

I just want to know if anyone has used the fel-pro engine rebuild kit from summit and what was their experience?

Better check your specs, only the highest lift pro stock style solid roller cams have 300* of duration @.050" tappet lift, not a cam with under .500" lift. Plus, it's usually pretty scary business to re-use, used flat-tappet camshafts. You better have the lifters from your dad's firebird as well, and they better be all in the same order as they were in, in the firebird engine. And you better hope your blocks lifter alignment is similiar to the firebird engine.

You always learn something, you and I both know that.

First off, he's way smarter than to bite you, ####. Opinion only, I have stated facts and see no facts from anyone else. If its my opinion I state it as opionion not as matter of fact.
Secondly, everything we've said here is true, sure you can assemble a cast crank 383 and squirt it. But it won't live long. Again, opinion, were are the facts?

Pay attention, not just my opinion, but opinion of others, "400hp+ on a cast crank is just fine."

Based on the 5.0L V8, the 347 c.i.d. is probably the most popular stroker Ford out there.  new Summit cast stroker crankshaft .the 347 has a Summit cast stroker crank

With this combo, the 347 proved to be a stout little motor -- almost 403 horsepower at 5,700 rpm and 395 foot-pounds of torque at 4,500 rpm. When you look at the dyno results chart, you'll notice how fat that torque curve is, especially from 3,500 rpm on up. That's the beauty of stroker motors, eh?

The 393 c.i.d. brings more cubic inches -- and lots more torque -- to the table. Based on a 351 Windsor, the 10 to 1 compression engine will feature a Summit stroker crankshaft The key to the 393 is the crank. Summit now has a 3.850 in. cast stroker crank designed to build a 393

In the buildup article, we stated that the engine should make 500 horsepower naturally aspirated -- and even more with the 150 horsepower NOS nitrous kit we wanted to use. While the nitrous deal didn't happen in time for this article, we beat the 500 figure with 529 horsepower at 6,500 rpm. And there was all that lovely torque, peaking at 472 foot-pounds at 5,000 rpm. This power was not gained at the expense of low rpm torque -- not with 377 ft.-lbs. of it available at three grand. Think about this beastlike 393 between the fenders of a five-speed Fox body!

But when it comes to serious bracket racing, nothing makes power like a stroker 460 big block. The 520 c.i.d. will be a 12.5 to 1 compression engine filled with goodies To create the 520, Summit took a 1972 460 2-bolt block, bored it .030 over, then added one of their new 4.300 in. stroke cast cranks,

Since the 520 was built as a strip-oriented engine, we expected big numbers way up in the powerband. We were not disappointed: Horsepower peaked at 752 at 6,250 rpm, and torque hit 660 foot-pounds at 5,250 rpm. And in grand stroker tradition, torque production at the lower end was just as impressive, with 540 ft.-lbs. of the stuff available at 3,500 rpm. If you can't make a car go fast with that kind of moxie under your accelerator foot, you can't go fast.

 Also, all 5.0 H.O. motors, after the 82 model year have forged pistons, till the last one was sold in 92.

Oh realy now, then how do you explain this-

I wish you well in pulling your head from your ass.

I think more than one of us needs too, don't you build motors for a living? Don't you feel silly now?

Have a nice day. Thanks, I'll just do that, you do the same as well.