Mope-ars , let me tell you , they are NO competition for the GENERAL . Mr Viper , all too much money can barely get by a Z06 Corvette , you think GM is laying down , there is a 700 hp corvette on it's way . From the factory . Crossfire , old Mercedes CLK , no blower , big deal . NEON ?? isn't this the same engine ( ok a little bigger ) that used to puke head gaskets real regularly and leaky crank sensors , we shall see how it does with a turbo . GTO . CTS V . V12 Escalade (currently  with 345 REAL HP in a V8  . Supercharged 2.2 in Cobalt and Ion .320 hp Cadillac small SUV . STS with over 300 hp in a FWD car . V8 Bonneville .Just to name a few . At least GM is an American company with AMERICAN management . Not owned by some little german Hitlers

HEMI , first used by ARDUN in the thirties and forties , Invented by Arkus Duntov , Zora and Yuri , flathead Ford overhead conversion . Chrysler stole it lock , stock and barrel . Hemi should work good , considering a GM engineer invented it . If the new Hemi is so great , how come the Chevies and Pontiacs still hammer it in NHRA Pro Stock .

HEMI INTO A NEON!

have fun, lol

Regarding German cars...  when's the last time you saw one on the side of the road?  The 2.4 was designed from the ground up for it's turbo, it's not an add on.  Read about it in either Car Craft, or Hot Rod.  The Crossfire is an old SLK, and it'll receive the AMG treatment via a belt driven roots supercharger to boost it to 350 hp next year.  Sadly, all the 2.0 and 2.4 head gaskets have all dried up due to replacement MLS gaskets now used in every engine. (Made a lot of money on that one..head on the bench and back in the car in an hour and 45 minutes!)

Regarding the Hemi, Mr. Otto was the originator, Not Zora.  The first working internal combustion engine had a hemispherical chamber.  Dodge was the only corp. bright enough to market it.  The new hemi will be variable displacement, (think old Caddy 8-6-4 engine) that's got me cringing.  I hope they pull it off better then Caddy did.

And last but not least,  Hitler loved America.  His favorite movie?  King Kong.

The other day, saw some lady sitting on the side of the road in a 126 chassis (560SEL).  They break just like ever other car, I should know I worked on them for 7 years. And Benz has some very nice cars, like a E class with a 5 liter motor. That car moves for a sled.

And if a hemi is so great why don't all motors have a hemispherical combustion chamber. As I see it most engines have a heart shaped chamber. And why is that, cause a heart shaped chamber and a flat top piston gives the best flame travel.

The Hemi had its day but technology has come a long way since then. And the only reason Dodge made a hemi motor for its new trucks is to increase sales. You know you can smoke a blown hemi dragster with a hemi powered Dodge truck pulling a trailer with a car on it.

WAKE UP Dodge Dork, your hemi powered truck is not going to smoke my street bike. The other day some dork in a dodge truck with a hemi thought he was going smoke me off the line. The light turned green and I took off like normal and then realized that the Dork next to me was getting on it. So the natural born drag racer in me said hammer the throttle. So I rapped out 1st to about 11 grand grabbed second and laid about 10 feet of rubber and left this Dodge Dork like he had the plague. And then as if that wasn't enough we get to the next light and the poor sucker wants to go again, like things are going to change or something. But this time I was ready for the hole shot and smoked him out of the hole like a true drag racer would, ripping the back tire halfway through 1st and then again into second and staying hard core on it until I was half way through 3rd. I let off and in true Dodge Dork fashion the guy stayed on it until he finally caught up to me, passing me at a 100 or so and then letting off.  I do have to say this guy is a complete Dork.  

I'm not saying it was all Zora , hell there was Hemi stuff around in the twenties , Frontenac DOHC heads for model A Fords ( Chevrolet Brothers were Frontenac ) Winfield , Miller , Offenhauser . I was saying that the practical application was developer and stolen from ARDUN . Zora even coined the term firepower engine . The Old Chrysler HAD some cool engineering applications that were stolen from them , things like Unibody construction - the 1934 airflow was the first application , Hitler's boys came over and purchased 7 Airflows and every new German car after that had unibody design . Hitler loved America enough to declare war on US !!! Nazi bastards pioneered use of Nitrous Oxide . Chevrolet developed first workable air cooled engines in the twenties only to cause the biggest car buyback in history . Volks used the same concept . I have always thought the new Chrysler corp got a free pass with consumers for all of the junk they made from 81 - 95 . People always root for the little guy . Now with Benz underhanded theft of a company that had been bailed out by the US taxpayer , sales have slipped . Daimler-Chrysler have been hemmoraging money every quarter . They will not be able to handle ( like Ford ) all of the new product coming out of General Motors . The German stockholders of Daimler- Chrysler are up in arms about the massive losses , Mr Kerkorian is moving on with his lawsuit against the germans , saying it was an Illegal sale . If you want to make big bucks at Blopar , why not be the tranny guy , they can't get nearly enough trans rebuilders to handle the demand. Benz could help them with trans problems , but wait , benz doesn't even make their own trannys ZF and Hydramatic (GM) do . Benz could help them with their electrical problems , oh wait Delphi ( GM ) does their multiplex wiring . Benz could help them with their Computer problems , but wait , Siemans makes their computers for them . Sure benz is a nice car , but other than the super stiff structure ( heavy ) and the engines , what the hell do they build ???? Mopar's winston cup program , Taurus body , A engine with Chevy SB2-2 heads .  

Actually, GibTG, for the record, Mopar had quite a few engines that came down the factory pipeline with solid lifter cams:  the 413 and 426 Max Wedges, the first couple years of 426 Hemis, a version of the 273 came with a solid cam in it, and the lowly and indestructable slant-6s came with solid cams.

Anything can be built to run.  It's all a matter of budget ande preference.

hey, i have a sbc stroked and a stock 350 pontiac w/ 58,000 original miles.  I want to stroke it to 400 and add #16 heads w/ an eaton posi

and a 3.55 gear.  When i upgrade the rotating assembly how much boring will i have to do?  I'll probably add hypereu. flat top pistons and the heads will probably be 72cc=9.5-1.  Give me some of ur thoughts on ways to make this small indian really dance down the street. "WOOOOO......"

Uh, what about the Ford 428SCJ (Super Cobra Jet) and the Ford 289Hi-Po...standard factory solid lifters. Just two of many...  

How about a ford 427 tunnel port motor. It had intake runners bigger than your fist. A friend of mine had one in a 67 fastback. It made over 600hp with two junk 650 holley's on it.  

yeah and like those huge ports actually helped, only way i can think of using them is with a blower, otherwise thed make low end very, very lazy

Man you must have a mullat and tight ass jeans or something.  I'm sure you have heard about the 70's horsepower down time in the states, but i guess you haven't heard about what started the horsepower revolution in the 80's.  It is called the the Ford small block with 5.0 litres of displacement.  You cant deny that, it's a simple fact.  So go and throw a boring 350 in everything you own, I am gonna put a mopar in a dodge, i'm gonna put a blue oval in a ford, and if for some stupid reason I find my hands in the possesion of a chevy i will stuff it with a bowtie, but the 350 will not be my choice.  It wont be my choice cause it's boring and everyone is doing a small block chevy now-a-days. 

Hey I got a question for you...if you went to a car show and everything had a small block chevy would you still have fun?  or would it be boring?

If you think it would still be fun then your one hell of a close minded guy.

And i am positive that a Ford or Mopar has beaten your "tubbed camaro" before, come on and admit it...don't be a retard and deny it, cause we ALL know your lying if you deny it.

You need to wake up, your wet dream is getting out of hand. And again I do not have a mullet and I live in Arizona so it is shorts all year round. And face it none of the big three made any thing worth while in the 70's and 80's. Well they did make some good stuff up until about 75 and then it sucked. And for the record I don't like 350's, only 400 small blocks are my motor of choice. And yes there might be a ford or two that might smoke me, but then you can't win them all.

And anyway I built the car to run 9's on the motor and maybe 8's with the juice. And wanted to keep it a small block.

Anyone can build a big block and go that fast, but it takes a little more work with a small block.

And when I goto car shows the motor is not what impresses me about the cars, it is the cars themselves. And I think that is far from being close minded.  

hah ford nor mopar never made or will make a muscle engine quite like the L88, we ran modified L88's in our 64 Imapala SS, boat of a car and still it beat any hemi's expcet maybe one i can remember, which was very heavily modified, oh yeah and there wasnt even a mustang around to contend it anyway, and you think that a 302 ford makes more power than a 350 chevy! wow TC is right you are dreaming, 351's dont make as much power as 350's and ford engines are pretty much just plain built wrong in my opinion, too big of intake ports, exhaust ports are absolutely horrible, and they only have 10 head bolts, i find it very funny to talk to racers up here that run fords, they wonder why they keep blowing out head gaskets, LOL! oh maybe cause there isnt a full circle of bolts around every cylinder like with the chevy's 17 head bolts, and i cant give a technical reason for this but why do fords always vapor-lock too, im not against mopar 100% ive seen some 440's make almost as much power as 454's in a much smaller package, but im 100% against fords in every possible way, of course 350's are getting a little boring but there the cheapest and easiest way of making street horsepower, aslo as TC im into big inch small blocks, thats the only way to go unless you can get a big block and there is downsides to both so its pretty much up to the user, but if i ever put together any more 350's they will at least have to be stroked up to 3 and 9/16, oh yeah and if i went to a car show and just saw small block chevy i would love it, it would awesome to see all the variety 327's 350's, 383's, 406's, 415's, 427's, 454's, 468, there is endless possibility with SBC

GM is in fact not the only way to go I know of a guy with a small block Boss302 in a 66Ford Mustang Running in the 11's Naturally aspirated. I have also seen Fox stangs on the bottle in the 11's. GM makes a hell of a car though there not numero uno for nothing.

65FalconGuy

I don't go to see the engines, i go to see the different cars and the different setups that they incorporate in to there rides.  But if I looked at all the car and seen a chevy engine i them then the hobby would loose all it's excitement, and my interest for the hobby would die.  If you go to the shows to see the cars then why do you care about whats under the hood?  OOHHHHH yah and for all you people who don't know #### about cars, ford did make a hi-po head it was the damn heads on the 429 boss.  Look up any of the information on the engine and you will find out that the heads flowed an amazing amount of air with there hemi design.  The only thing that choked up the engine with the carb and the intake manifold which was basically the intake manifold and carb of the 428 cobra jet engines.  Slap an intake, carb and headers on a 429 and it really woke up, and was truely a contender at any street light or drag strip.  I am not debating that chevy has created great engine either, they have, but so has dodge and ford.  And look at the pro 5.0 series which runs the small block ford.  Talk to those guys about working hard on there cars which are running just about in the damn 6 second range with stock bodied door slammers, and a small block ford.   Those cars make your camaro look like a tricycle.  And you know what if your car runs 9's thats pretty awesome amn i totally respect you for that, but don't trash ford engines or dodge engine because they are just as good as your beloved GM engine.   If it runs hard to 1320 feet, can run around a track an a good pace and looks good doing both i'll repect it.  It all comes down to your own personal taste and preference.  I have also seen a big block or two that blow my f@$king mind because the owns have worked just as hard at there cars as you have.  But whatever man your a car guy, that automatically makes you a good guy in my books.  like i have always said man cars equal freedom....remember the first time you went out driving after you got your license?  wasn't it the coolest thing you have ever experienced???