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anyone here street race?
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min301
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Posted: 05/26/05 06:30 PM
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If you live in Michigan, bring it to me for a power tune before you run.
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jrpitb
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Posted: 05/26/05 09:07 PM
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Most of my family lives in the Travers city Wiliamsburg area, at least my dads side I like it up there and Alpena but my wife is USAF so I'm in CO at PAFB. Thank you though.
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min301
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Posted: 05/27/05 03:58 PM
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Anytime, if ya come thru.
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rebldryvr
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Posted: 05/27/05 07:32 PM
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Rev the engine to 4,000 rpm and dump the clutch. Then hang on. If nothing blows up, then get ready for major torque steer. If you actually want to keep traction and parts intact. You have to use trial and error, rpm to clutch slippage. Just remember once your at full throttle, be sure your clutch is fully engaged, (no pressure on clutch pedal) or that smoke coming through the shifter boot will be whats left of your clutch disc.
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rebldryvr
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Posted: 05/27/05 07:50 PM
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I used to. But after getting shot at twice by guys who didn't want to pay up after losing. Nearly getting my best friend killed racing a drunk. Nearly getting my girlfriend killed (She was a by stander whose car was hit by the guy I was racing). And, myself killed just about every night, I stopped. I used to cruise W Dodge Rd in Omaha. It was main street east/west with 6 to 8 lanes. On Saturday night it looked like rush hour. There it was all about seeing and being seen, setting up races. Big money races happened north of the airport on Abbott Dr which was technically in Iowa but west of the Missouri river. My street race car was a black 69 Impala SS factory ordered without radio, heater, wipers, inner fenders, and no sound deadening or insulation under the carpet. It didnt even have a console. The heavy buckets were replaced by old cheap van seats. It ran a 12.5:1 427 L-88 short block with factory aluminum heads and the tri-power. The M-22 muncie four speed. All the parts came from various vettes of the late sixties. Including the rally wheels. I bought the whole thing from the original owner, a street racer himself. He raced it from '69 to '82 til he couldn't drive it anymore. Ever street raced a guy on Social Security? The reason I street raced? The nearest track was 150 miles away near Kansas City. The Omaha city council kept voting no on any track development.
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jrpitb
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Posted: 05/27/05 08:20 PM
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Wow I was wondering why the Nebraska State police were nice enough to just give me a warning at 40 over? Guess they felt a little sypathy.
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Steve70
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Posted: 05/27/05 09:12 PM
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or the Cop likes Musclecars and used to street race as a kid.
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hemicop
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Posted: 05/28/05 10:43 AM
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guys, I'm a 30yr police veteran, I still race (legally in S/C ) & I can honestly say I don't know of a "gearhead" cop that hadn't street raced at some point in his life,me included. I grew up in NYC in the late 60's-early 70's & alot of the street racing stories you hear about are true, although frequently exaggerated. Working for the other side I can tell you I now see the lack of logic both sides display. Streetracers may know EXACTLY what they're doing but they can't control the surrounding traffic or if their car breaks an axle or dumps oil on the road causing them to lose control in a public place. Most cops either forget what it's like to be a civilian, or are "badge heavy",thinking they'll actually put a stop to it (like that's gonna happen). The local tracks don't help much either with their arbitrary rules and only allowing 3 or 4 runs per night, at most. The solution? Go back to the old days, let the local car clubs find a place they can run, let them manage it and go have fun.
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7MGTEJoe
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Posted: 05/28/05 12:05 PM
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:dons flameproof suit: A turbo civic is pretty hard to read. B18 doesn't mean much, they range in power from 130-195hp depending on the year, compression ratio and if they have vtec. They'll also accept the B20 crank and with sleeves it'll go to a 2.2 liter engine. Still small by American standards but it makes a pretty substantial difference. It really depends on turbo size, how he built the engine and his suspension setup. A bolt on kit for a stock engine isn't particularly fast; they run into all kinds of internal failures if they turn the wick up too high. A stock bottom B18B with a turbo kit in a mid 90's civic coupe runs low 14's-high 13's. But if he backed the money dump truck up to the engine compartment you could be looking at a low 11, high 10 second car depending on traction. There aren't many of them that fast but there are enough of them around to pay attention. Nitrous/turbo combos on a civic are a bit of a tip off for an oversized turbo. It's the only way they can get a big turbo to spool on an engine that small. 260 hp is a probably a lie or he may just be giving you his pump gas numbers with no nitrous. Pump gas number don't mean jack with small turbo engines; a 260 whp cars can turn into a 500+ whp car with the proper fuel. The fact that he's willing to stack them together indicates that he's probably not on a stock bottom end (a stock bottom B series tends to go all to pieces before it hits the 300 hp mark). Hondas have an open deck block and need a deck plate to run high cylinder pressure or the bores start moving around. If there isn't one he's running at the upper limit of the block at 260hp (unless it's a dart block but those are easy to spot). Try to read the housing number off of the turbo and look for an external wastegate. He could be running an upgraded wheel in a smaller housing but there's still flow limits imposed by the housing. If he's running an external wastegate he's serious business (or a retard who likes to waste money). Curb weight varies, the new hatch is a bit of a pig at 2750 lbs but the early to mid 90's hatch and all coupes weigh in around 2200-2400 lbs. That's stock weight, the serious Honda boys tend to take lightening to the extreme. He could be weighing in under 2000 lbs. Joe
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jrpitb
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Posted: 05/28/05 09:34 PM
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Unfortunatly some jack @## vandalized dudes car stole his stereo jacked his wiring harness broke most of his exaust trying to take the turbo took the tank just cut the an line and left the rest of the nitrous kit, thieves suck I was looking forward to this one, not only for the coin but from your post it sounded like I may have been handed my @## buy my first honda, I actually liked his set up to black steel wheels no wing no glowing junk no back seat, kinda an import version of my car minus the rust. I feel for him he said to give it a month or to and hell be ready again, but I smoked a dodge magnum wagon, today just light to light, to bad no cash was at stake. Min301 you should drop me an E-mail with where to find you, ive got a family reunion to go to this summer and may be able to talk my cousin out of his vett well at least the drive train it's the car that sold me on power, 69 427. One of those unbaleveable Nam stories he picked it up in Plymoth for 500. with less than 5k on the od. then drove it home and wrecked it first day, Any way he moved up in his opinion to a C-5, the c3 still works just all cracked to #$%@ figure I could get it prepped and transplant it to the Chevelle. It also sold me on 427's thank you all for the help, I'll run em when he's ready and hopefully not get smoked, Hemi cop don't worry by the inocents here we roll East to horse country couple of miles the only people at risk are the drivers, of course the younger people run down Acadamy the busiest street in town, most of the police are busy chasing them around. From Citadale Mall to Chapel hills mall every friday night from 2-4. I'm a little older and a lot more cautious, besides theres traffic.
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Posted: 05/29/05 11:04 AM
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I'm a 30yr police veteran, I still race (legally in S/C ) & I can honestly say I don't know of a "gearhead" cop that hadn't street raced at some point in his life,me included. I grew up in NYC in the late 60's-early 70's & alot of the street racing stories you hear about are true, although frequently exaggerated
Here are what some cops have done here in So Cal-

Veteran Los Angeles Police Department Officer and NHRA racer Tony Foti will celebrate the 20th anniversary of the LAPD Racing team with his supercharged seven-second Camaro at the CARQUEST Auto Parts NHRA Winternationals in Pomona. Foti was a street racer in Southern California's San Fernando Valley before joining the police department in 1973, and in 1984 he worked the Special Problems Unit, trying to combat illegal street racing. He understood the need for an adrenaline rush but also the dangers of racing on public roads, so Foti decided to combine his job with his love of racing. With the help of friends Marv Ripes and Steve Morrison, Foti transformed a '67 Camaro into a bracket car, and the LAPD Racing team was born. Fans and sponsors loved the concept of using the car to promote a safe alternative to street racing, and Foti soon was called upon by NHRA to help pilot its career fair and the movie Careers at the Starting Line. Since the LAPD Racing team's inception, other law-enforcement agencies have used such programs to address issues that affect their communities.
Copyright National Hot Rod Association Feb 11, 2005 Provided by ProQuest Information and Learning Company. All rights Reserved

Team Sheriff Racing is a unique program that was founded by Deputy Bill Chaffin in 1993. The program, which has been fully endorsed by the Sheriff of Los Angeles County (Leroy D. Baca) is designed as an educational program to reach out to today's youth and educate them about the dangers of drugs, gangs, impaired driving, and illegal street racing.
LASD Motorsports is a program that was organized by Deputy Sheriff's from the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department that have a passion for fast vehicles, and being involved within their communities. As Deputies our goal is to be role models to all we come in contact with as we give messages concerning the dangers of abusing drugs, alcohol, gangs, and illegal street racing.
Edited 5/29/2005 12:09 pm ET by EthelkilledFred (EthelkilledF)
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min301
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Posted: 05/29/05 08:01 PM
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Or stiil does.
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min301
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Posted: 05/29/05 08:02 PM
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Ilike this guy!!!!
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rebldryvr
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Posted: 05/29/05 09:18 PM
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You've must've caught him on a good day, or on his way home for the day. The Nebraska State Patrol didn't mess around. They had Mustang LX's 5.0/ 5 spd. Some even were supercharged. Those were the ones with roll bars. Don't even try to out-run those, they'd run 150 all day long. That was in the 80's. The state had to re-write exhaust noise laws because none of these were legal themselves. In the sixties, Iowa and Missouri had High Speed Pursuit vehicles. Iowa used GTX's from 68-73. Missouri used Dodge Coronets. They both were using NASCAR spec wedge motors. None used Hemis. Each had two mufflers per side. I got to see one at a show during college. The owner bought it for $2500 at an auction during the fuel crisis of 74. My Grandfather told that Mizzou had 50-51 Fords that were built and maintenced by Ford techs. Full race flatties, I guess. Though then the speed limit on state highways was "Reasonable and Proper".
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jrpitb
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Posted: 05/29/05 09:37 PM
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I wouldn't try and out run the police if they were on bicycles being a polite and cooperative individual has kept my driving record spotless. It is to compensate for my wifes who picks up a ticket every time she drives my car, thats why she has a wagon now, I would actually become a highway patrol man if the hooked the cars up like that every where. The mechanic that helped me way back on my first intake swap told me about Oregon hireing Nascar mechanics to hook up cars suspension and all to crack down on street racing and here in Co.Sp. they have magnum wagons with no markings. I got real lucky the day I found that out, the guy in the 70's Nova next to me got the ticket and I just let off and rolled on. They are Burgandy colored if any one is up this way.
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