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dfinkie
New User | Posts: 8 | Joined: 03/05
Posted: 03/06/05
02:40 AM

Sept 2004 Car Craft had an article about a '68 Z28 Camaro Ragtop that got up to 1,050,000 dollars at auction. The car is supposed to be super rare because of the ragtop. My question is, why would a car that rare not have the original hood? A '68 Camaro never had a cowl induction hood. Those didn't come out til '69. '68 Z28's had a cowl unduction air cleaner that was ducted from the firewall and a flat hood. Did z28's even have a code on the tag that designated them as a z28? I have a owned a 67 rs, 68 coupe and a 69 coupe...  


 
BlackoutSteve
User | Posts: 63 | Joined: 10/04
Posted: 03/06/05
03:59 AM

Hey good point re; the cowl hood.


Is there anything on-line about this car? I'd love to see this one.


'68s, '69 L.A., and '69 pre late November Norwood cars are worst of the first gens for trim tag info and no, there is nothing on the tag/s that will indicate if it's a Z28. You'd just have to go by the "bolted on" clues that are on the car and then you'd still never know 100% for sure if someone had done a really good clone.


'67s had the "4P" or "4L" on their tags, they had great tag info and '69s from late Nov '68 onwards had X codes but only on the Norwood built cars.


I think the only way to tell whether that rag Z28 was authentic would be the vin # stamped on the 302 block and all other Z28 options in place. If the engine numbers didn't match the vin, there'd be no way of telling for sure if the car was a Z and the price tag would very seriously plummet.


You may know this but in case you don't.. The '67-'68 cowl induction (air plenum/air cleaner assy.) was an extra $80 option (only with the Z28 package) and not a standard part of the Z28 option just like the Bill Thomas or Kustom exhaust headers were.


It's such a pity that the documentation of these cars was so bad.

-Steve. I like to restore my '69 Camaro.. -when I can get off my lazy arse and away from this PC!

 

 
SS-396
New User | Posts: 4 | Joined: 03/05
Posted: 03/08/05
02:10 AM

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Simple search came up with this.  Things are Rare because they have something that others do not have.  So if one has a prototype cowl hood its possible that another one does to.  It might even be the same car in question.


Jason.

 

 
BlackoutSteve
User | Posts: 63 | Joined: 10/04
Posted: 03/08/05
04:36 AM

Good one Jason..

-Steve. I like to restore my '69 Camaro.. -when I can get off my lazy arse and away from this PC!

 

 
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