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FastSteve
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Posted: 09/03/05 05:34 PM
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I posted this in the steering column section on C&D's fourm. I am sick of their import worship. I am posting this around the net to make sure people get to read it in case they pull it because the truth hurts.
This is going to be a hot one. I am sick of it and have bit my tongue as long as I can anymore. I am sick of the garbage spewing forth from Import Worshiper,I mean C&D. A magazine that I pay for a subscription to. Other then for the hard numbers I am beginning to feel that I wasted my money. I mean do you guys lick the ground the imports drive across? The articles and editorials are so predictable and pathetic. It is simple. Toyota, Lexus, Honda, Acura, and BMW always win shootouts. Audi, Mercedes, Infiniti, Nissan and Mazda are all popular second choices when the almighty favorites are not available. After all these are all imports also. Anything so long as it is not American. As for the imports that domestic brands have bought into, these are not so favored. Lines like Jaguar and Saab are not so favored like other can do no wrong imports. Of course when it is the other way around, then it is better. Since Mercedes "took over" Chrysler sudden now Chrysler products have some degree of acceptance in the pages of Import Worshiper. The GTO gets some good remarks. I know you guys did that with an evil grin. Lets p*ss off twice as many people as we appease by giving a "not" so American, American car good remarks. Lets bring up some of the "garbage" shall we. The Sept. issue of this year. Leave it up to Import Worshiper to pick the two biggest pieces of cr*p in the shootout to finish in the top spots. Now by that remark, I am not saying that said cars are "bad" cars. For the reason of that article (cheap speed) they are cr*p. I would like to know why in an article about performance the car with the worse 0-60, 1/4 mile time, tied for worst 70-0 and slowest autocross time wins the damn thing! Actually I know why. It is one of the almighty favorites. In several of the tests where it did not finish last, it was barely ahead of the last place finisher. In performance (fuel consumption is not performance) testing this car only won two times. It is the lightest car of the group with the steepest gear ratio, performs the worse and WINS a damn performance shootout! What the h*ll is that cr*p? How about that Toyota, I mean Pontiac Vibe article. Toyota, Toyota, Toyota. You guys made damn sure you shoved it done everyone's throat that Toyota had something to do with it. Especially anything good about the car. After all to anyone with half a brain you couldn't give the Vibe a bad rating without doing the same for its Matrix counterpart. And well all know you aren't about to give a bad review to a Toyota. Its an import. H*ll you make excuses for Toyota when they have problems. "Very unToyota Like", sound familiar? It was sickening that in an article on a "Pontiac", the name Toyota came up just about as many times if not more. Let us move on to Brock Yates. A man that has written several books. A man of the real Cannon Ball race. One, quit babbling. Import Worshiper had it in for the last generation Pontiac Grand Am from the day it came out. The best rip Mr Yates could come up with was "cornea burning back up lights"! What a damn joke! Don't know about you, but one I don't stand "behind" the car when I am backing up. Two, I like being able to see where I am going. Third if you are outside when one of these cars are parking, don't look at it. Problem solved. Don't try to turn a good lighting system into a fault. Second point. I am getting really tired of the bragging and self promotion in Mr Yates column. The showing off of the fancy cars. The bragging of what events he has won. Love how his page has become his personal advertising space. Must be nice to get paid, instead of paying for advertising in a magazine of this size. Bet the advertisers paying big bucks for those adds at the "back" of the magazine loved that. As for Danica Patrick's size. Its called a competitive advantage. Why do you think horse jockeys are so damn small? With a lighter driver more weight can be added through improvements without having to move more weight then cars with bigger heavier drivers. I figure I will probable get banned for speaking my mind and the TRUTH. I really don't care. Maybe this thread will get deleted. Don't bother. I made sure to post it elsewhere so people can see it even if Import Worshiper tries to silence me. Or maybe it will get left up. Someone from the magazine will try to make some smarta$$ comment or pick apart my thread because of some grammar error. Well I am not the journalist, you guys are. Start acting like a true journalist. You know, neutral, not taking any sides, unbias, not being bias which Import Worshiper so blatantly is! This will likely be labeled as "idiotic" or the likes. Maybe there will be no remarks at all while just being left up. The silence will speak even more for what I say. Anyway it goes my point is made and proven with each issue of IMPORT WORSHIPER.
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jrpitb
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Posted: 09/05/05 08:36 PM
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Steve many of us do not read or watch C&D for the most part though you stated some very good points as to the magazines direction, I would not feel so personally insulted though every magazine is striving to fill a niche, and most have already stratigized there angle. The same people giving you import worship as you call it also produce GRM I think which although import heavy is home built heavy. I am sory you feel betrayed but there are many sheep that need a new lexus toyota etc... C&D also named the nissan Titan the best buy for trucks while giving the F150 the truck of the year when they share a platform and the nissan costs less. They frequintly make dicisions as far as there top 10 or whatever that do not support the results provided by them. It's publishing of course they are biased every one needs a paycheck.
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FastSteve
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Posted: 09/05/05 09:53 PM
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Well then, I guess the imports must be writing them some pretty good checks. C&D is suppose to be about "ALL" new vehicles. Yet it is very appearent they are VERY biased against American vehicles and that is what I am absolutely sick of. That and Yates shameless self promoting all the time. For a man that has done so much in the automotive world, his column has become a waste for the most part. The man has better in him. He can do better. He choses not too though. I dont view what they print as a personal insult. I think of it more as an insult against America. If you listen to C&D it would seem Americans can hardly ever get anything right or do anything good. True journalist are suppose to be UNBIAS AS C&D OBVIOUSLY ISNT!
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Mjolnir
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Posted: 09/06/05 05:52 AM
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Giving the Titan a "best buy" rating after reading the litany of problems they had with it (lock actuators, failed CD player, leaks, etc.) kind of demonstrates what he's talking about.
As far as the Nissan and F-150 sharing a platform, where would I find documentation on that? Is there a website laying it out?
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jrpitb
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Posted: 09/06/05 09:06 AM
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Not sure I'll look around they stated it on the C&D show last year. I totally agree with him on the biased part, and all but I figure that is there job and some one writting the checks has that general intent. Same as sinclare Tv stations wouldn't play things they thought might hurt Bushes chance at reelection. It's not our job to make this stuff just decipher when there feeding us a line like adding 10 Hp with a Tornado, or spending 200 bucks on an AEM cold air package vs. ten bucks on PVC and 40 on a nice K&N for the same effect.
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FastSteve
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Posted: 09/06/05 01:53 PM
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Well it would appear the truth hurt them. Though I can not say for sure because I see nothing noted by name nor have I received a PM or email but when I try to post replies I am getting a "banned" message. Looks like they banned me even though people say it takes alot to get banned. While I didnt express a great fondness for them, I do not feel that I stepped out of line. I simply expressed my opinion and it appears they didnt like that very much.
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FastSteve
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Posted: 09/06/05 07:09 PM
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It would appear there forum simply just cant work right half the time. I had many problems posting at first and now after being told I am banned earlier, all of the sudden I can post again.
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frebrd
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Posted: 09/07/05 12:39 AM
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The small Ford pick-ups (Couriers then Rangers) have been tied in with Mazda since the 70's. This is the first I've heard of Nissan - Ford.
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jrpitb
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Posted: 09/07/05 09:10 AM
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Ok I've been looking it up and they do not share a wheel base so I asume the guy on the C&D TV show just miss stated it, Unless a platform can be shared whith different wheel base windshield angle etc... I gotta quit taking things I hear on TV as gospel.
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Mjolnir
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Posted: 09/07/05 12:14 PM
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Thanks for the reply. It's possible to share a platform with different wheelbases (look at Chevy/GMC vans) but a different windshield angle kind of indicates not. I suppose they could share a frame, but it seems pretty unlikely. Thanks for checking.
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