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jrpitb jrpitb
Enthusiast | Posts: 518 | Joined: 03/04
Posted: 01/05/05
01:10 PM

Ok this will probably get an argument started hopefully not hopefully just a diverse set of answers.


  I want to take my chevelle apart for a frame off and I am going to need something to drive for about five years.  I want insaine bottom end power top end is irelivant as it wont see much highway or the track.  It needs a back seat for little ones, handeling would be nice though it is something I have little experiance with.  On the cheapest budget in the world.  I also don't want every one pulling up to race because that has cost me to much over the last eight years with my chevelle.  A bullet proof factory bottom end would be a plus.  Did a volare ever come with a 360? 

 

 
460-BBF-Turbo-In-CC 460-BBF-Turbo-In-CC
Guru | Posts: 774 | Joined: 10/03
Posted: 01/05/05
01:19 PM

Fox body Ford with a JY 460  and an 8.8 with serious gears.  Look for Fairmonts, Cougars, TBirds, LTD ('83-86--not Crown Victorias), Granadas ('80-82), even Continentals (not Town Cars) and Mark VIIs.  Big block fits with kit.


GM: plenty of bolt-in big block swaps for pre-1988 GM midsize cars.  Maximum Torque Specialities sells parts to stuff in a 500-cube JY Cadillac into these cars.  Non-Chevy parts are much cheaper.


Low end torque without forced induction means get big cubes and use steep gears.


If its not TURBOCHARGED, you're not finished yet . . . .

 
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October 1, 2003: " I'm thinking a couple of...turbos, blowing through an old Powerstroke intercooler...on a Super Cobra Jet-head 460 would be mad cheap and make sick power."
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EthelkilledFred EthelkilledFred
Enthusiast | Posts: 355 | Joined: 02/04
Posted: 01/06/05
02:00 PM

I am going to need something to drive for about five years.  I want insaine bottom end power top end is irelivant as it wont see much highway or the track.  It needs a back seat for little ones, handeling would be nice though it is something I have little experiance with.  On the cheapest budget in the world.  I also don't want every one pulling up to race


You just discribed an S10 Blazer with a 4.3 V6. They have alot of get up and go and you can hual your parts in the back. They come in 2 and 4 door models. The 2 doors range from $700 to $3500 and if want more power, you can do a V8 swap.

 

 
chevysxz chevysxz
User | Posts: 82 | Joined: 01/05
Posted: 01/08/05
09:24 AM

Not much "insaine" bottom end in a 4.3 Blazer.   And handling means keeping it from flipping over.


If ya gotta get a rolling roadblock/SUV, go for the Explorer 5.0.


Old cop cars are rad sleepers.  Done right, the Blue leaves you alone and its fun to make everybody check up and pull out of your way in the hammer lane.   A 460 swap in a CV or a PI could rule.  Or supercharge the cop engine.


GrandStangMaster Buzz 

 

 
EthelkilledFred EthelkilledFred
Enthusiast | Posts: 355 | Joined: 02/04
Posted: 01/08/05
05:59 PM

And handling means keeping it from flipping over.


No, some people use wheelie bars are for keeping it from flipping over, others just take their chances-


 

 
bowtie6872 bowtie6872
User | Posts: 151 | Joined: 09/04
Posted: 01/09/05
04:22 AM

mid 70's full size  pontiac... /buick/hell a caddy 


cheap


400 or 455 motor  or 476 in the caddy


big seats 6


trunk big enough for almost any part off the chevelle.


did i mention   cheap...

If it won't move,FORCE it,If it breaks,


IT needed replacing anyways!!!!!!!!!!

 

 
AmericanMuscle13 AmericanMuscle13
Enthusiast | Posts: 534 | Joined: 09/03
Posted: 01/09/05
10:04 PM

How about a mid to late 70's nova?  I also see a lot of guys hot rodding the colonnade cars.  (cutlass, chevelle, etc...)  My buddy has a 75 cutlass that he stuck a nasty 455 in, it should run 11's all said and done.  ( hasn't been to the track yet)  If you clean the cars up and hot rod them a little, they actually don't look all that bad.

Mitch

I wonder if the yuppies who wear "Von Dutch" clothes even know who Von Dutch was?

 

 
chevysxz chevysxz
User | Posts: 82 | Joined: 01/05
Posted: 01/10/05
08:14 AM

Need wheelie bars on the sides unless yo drive like grandma-ma.


GrandStangMaster Buzz

 

 
chevysxz chevysxz
User | Posts: 82 | Joined: 01/05
Posted: 01/10/05
08:26 AM

"mid 70's full size  pontiac... /buick/hell a caddy'


Why not just bolt 1500# ballast into a stock 5.0 Mustang.  About the same performance potential.


Gotta agree w/ the mope suggested dumping the 455/472/500 into an '80s midsize bod if you need a GM ride.  Of course, he'd have to fight off the meth dealers and the dirt trackers *** the Monte Carlos and the lowriders *** the gutlass cutlasses. How 'bout a 500 caddy in an el camino w/ astro-turf bedliner?


460 in a Fox-bod Ford would be hella sleepy and wicked fast.


GrandstangMaster Buzz.

 

 
chevysxz chevysxz
User | Posts: 82 | Joined: 01/05
Posted: 01/10/05
08:46 AM

"How about a mid to late 70's nova? I also see a lot of guys hot rodding the colonnade cars."


Sleeper don't mean a CRIB TO SLEEP IN!


If yo can pull one of those huge '70s gm heaps out of the 'yard, bondo up all of the giant rust holes, and make it run, it'd still be several hundred pounds heavier than an '80s model with a 455/460 swap. 


Y pack the extra fat when you don't have to?


GrandStangMaster Buzz

 

 
AmericanMuscle13 AmericanMuscle13
Enthusiast | Posts: 534 | Joined: 09/03
Posted: 01/10/05
12:06 PM

You seem to have a real chip on your should towards gm.  What exactly do you drive?  Or are you as young as you act.  I have both a ford and a chevy, each have their strengths and weaknesses.  I can post pictures of my car if you'd like, but I'm more interested in seeing what you run.  So lets see it.

Mitch

I wonder if the yuppies who wear "Von Dutch" clothes even know who Von Dutch was?

 

 
chevysxz chevysxz
User | Posts: 82 | Joined: 01/05
Posted: 01/10/05
01:35 PM

I already "seed" yo hooptie . . .



Let me guess, the Ford is holding up the front of ya "Dubble-wide" and the HEAVY chevy's yo money ride . . . .

 

 
AmericanMuscle13 AmericanMuscle13
Enthusiast | Posts: 534 | Joined: 09/03
Posted: 01/10/05
07:09 PM

Actually the ford is my daily driver, and I the camaro is my project.  If you've got nothing productive to say, why don't you go somewhere else.  You act like you're 12.

Mitch

I wonder if the yuppies who wear "Von Dutch" clothes even know who Von Dutch was?

 

 
bowtie6872 bowtie6872
User | Posts: 151 | Joined: 09/04
Posted: 01/10/05
08:16 PM

mitch...


he's looking for a cheap car that hold his family while he's chevelle is being resto'd....


big 70's cars are cheap and seat 6  ...


and great for parts moving.(i. e. to and from shops).  trunks are huge..

If it won't move,FORCE it,If it breaks,


IT needed replacing anyways!!!!!!!!!!

 

 
C-munkey C-munkey
New User | Posts: 2 | Joined: 01/05
Posted: 01/11/05
12:44 AM

A stock 472-500 inch Cadilac motors for the torque you want. Preferably 1970 motors. Try and stay away from motors after '73.  The power progresivly drops year after year. Put an HEI on the motor, install a new timming chain and change the oil sump from middle to rear. 


You can put the motor in a lot of GM cars using motor mount plates from FLashcraft or MTS.  If the recipiant car origonally had a Chevy bell housing patern it'll need an adaptor plate. If the car was Buick, Olds, or Pontiac it should bolt right up. You may have to redrill the flexplate to bolt up to the the torque convertor if your not using a TH400 (I had Hughes performance do mine). I put a Caddie motor in my Cutlass. You can see my car>>>  http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/466994





Edited 1/11/2005 12:46 am by C-munkey (C_munkey)  

 
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