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Iroczguy Iroczguy
User | Posts: 69 | Joined: 11/05
Posted: 11/30/05
10:51 AM

I under stand your opion super-s10 just this past weekend bought a 91 LX mustang and he was talking about putting a sbc in it I damn near slapped him.  I mean I'm a chevy guy but I;m not biast against other brands but the the thought of that crossbreed made my stomach curl.  Espesialy when theres a 460 sitting in a semi trailer down the road from my house ready for some attention


So drop the 502 and find a 4.6 dohc and put that in your fox, keep it light and quick!

 

 
dr511scj_1 dr511scj_1
Enthusiast | Posts: 571 | Joined: 10/03
Posted: 11/30/05
11:04 AM

That doesn't make any sense.


 


If its not TURBOCHARGED, you're not finished yet . . . .

 

 
davracr davracr
New User | Posts: 42 | Joined: 01/05
Posted: 11/30/05
06:09 PM

I hate to burst your bubble, but that cammer engine is as heavy as the 460 and just about the hardest engine to swap that is available today. Its wider and longer than the 460 also.


It'll make the mustang quick,ok, but not light.

 

 
TommyN TommyN
User | Posts: 170 | Joined: 03/05
Posted: 11/30/05
10:53 PM

People are really uptight about swapping a different make engine into a car.


If you look at the traditional rods from the 50s, guys got whatever OHV v8 they could find and put it in whatever body they had.


It is not like a Fox mustang is some rare car that should be preserved stock.  I like the idea of using the Fox stang as a platform for whatever mill you have.  The fox has many chassis parts available, large wheel wells, is relatively light weight, and is common and cheap.


 


Tom

 

 
CSIROC
Enthusiast | Posts: 698 | Joined: 11/05
Posted: 12/03/05
12:05 PM

ANYBODY NOTICE THE PERSON WHO STARTED THIS THREAD HAS NOT BEEN BACK!!!!!!!  


68 Olds Cutlass ~ 350 Rocket
85 Delta 88 ~ 425 Rocket
02 Silverado 4X4 ~ 5.3L

 
MrFoMoCo MrFoMoCo
User | Posts: 241 | Joined: 03/05
Posted: 12/07/05
10:53 AM

"If you look at the traditional rods from the 50s, guys got whatever OHV v8 they could find and put it in whatever body they had."


No, most were seeking some sort of performance advantage over a bolt-together Flathead Ford (few traditional rodders built anything but Fords back in the 50s). There wasn't a decent, bolt-in Ford alternative.


But now, there's no reason not to put a Ford in a Ford. 


Ford now produces some of the most advanced engines available. Ford big blocks can be built as big as anyone can possibly afford. (http://www.crateengine.net/460660.html and http://www.flatlanderracing.com/strokerford-460806.html  The 5.0/351W is now supported by 1000s of affordable speed parts. New Edelbrock and Aussie "3V" heads make Boss & Cleveland-style Fords practical and economical.  Ford power-adder engine over 900 hp are increasingly common. Because of an exploding aftermarket, Ford FE engines are enjoying renewed popularity.  Ford 4V and 3V Cammers are growing in aftermarket support and racing success.  Even lowly 2V OHCs are powering scores of 11, 10 and even 9-second Fords.


The Fox will swallow virtually any Ford engine ever made. To build one with a belly-button Chevy crate engine is simply unnecessary and disrespectful.  If you need a crate mill, FRPP builds plenty of big power units: http://www.fordracingparts.com/crateengine/bigblock.asp


Or how about a "baby" 532-cube Ford?


http://www.crateengine.net/460532.html

 

 
davracr davracr
New User | Posts: 42 | Joined: 01/05
Posted: 12/07/05
05:32 PM

The thing is back in the "good ol' days" the only thing you had for power was the flat head and you were lucky to make two hundred horses with it. An overhead engine (any one of the then available engines) were two hundred horse stock. The Chevy became the engine of choice because it was the lightest, cheapest and most abundant. Now, however the Ford engines make good HP., are cheap, and abundant. Your Mustang comes with a 289-302, or even larger engines. If you want there are plenty of good hop-up parts available for them.there is no need for an alternative engine for a Mustang.


A case can be made for the 302/347 stroker in that they make better HP than a Chevy and are lighter, have a better castiron block( it's called 'nodular iron' now)

 

 
71_bigblocknova 71_bigblocknova
Guru | Posts: 930 | Joined: 09/04
Posted: 12/07/05
07:45 PM

thats irrelivent information. How can you say a 347 stroker makes better H.P than a Chevy small block (im takin it you mean a 350). There are so many variables when it comes to comparison. Sure a built 347 would beat a stock 350, but put the same quality parts in the 350 and it will beat the 347.  


 
mirada-man mirada-man
User | Posts: 153 | Joined: 11/05
Posted: 12/07/05
08:14 PM

Only because that's the only freakin'company that people pay attention to. Here is what i go through when i see a new innovative part on TV or in a magazine: "Oh sweet I want one of thoes on my car" and then I log on to Summit or Jegs and find out they only make it for Chevys. Whenever any company is making an experimtental part they make it for Chevy. And then the reason that the same hop up parts on a Ford and a Chevy differ in performance is that the company takes the lazy a$$ route and just adapts the Chevy part to fit whatever. What works on a GM motor might not work for Ford or Mopar. You chevy guys take everything for granted, and then think that by some miracle of engineering that your engines are better than any other.

Mopar or Nocar
 

 
71_bigblocknova 71_bigblocknova
Guru | Posts: 930 | Joined: 09/04
Posted: 12/07/05
10:40 PM

we don't think that, we just know that we can make cheap, reliable power. The parts trickle down and after a few months, the rest of you get the same type of part for your brand.  


 
TommyN TommyN
User | Posts: 170 | Joined: 03/05
Posted: 12/07/05
11:16 PM

Ford 302 blocks of the 5.0L era are not that strong.  They tend to split down the middle at the 500 hp+ level.  You don't hear of many Chevy small blocks splitting.  


 
mirada-man mirada-man
User | Posts: 153 | Joined: 11/05
Posted: 12/08/05
05:13 PM

You never hear of Mopar blocks cracking either... Im just saying that GM is very mainstream. Need I remind you though, the motor that everyone uses in Top Fuel, regardless of brand is the HEMI.


Mopar or Nocar
 

 
71_bigblocknova 71_bigblocknova
Guru | Posts: 930 | Joined: 09/04
Posted: 12/08/05
08:52 PM

chevy did experiment with a Hemi design, so dont find it so unique  


 
mirada-man mirada-man
User | Posts: 153 | Joined: 11/05
Posted: 12/09/05
11:01 AM

Did they ever put in a muscle car?

Mopar or Nocar
 

 
jrpitb jrpitb
Enthusiast | Posts: 518 | Joined: 03/04
Posted: 12/09/05
04:06 PM

No but mopar was far from the only hemi out there they didn't even come up with it in the first place.  While used for fuelers on the street mopars own 340 small block could walk all over the hemi street cars both in stock trim, and the 440 would demolish it.  


 
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