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283ci
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Posted: 05/09/06 05:21 AM
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Freiburger has always dismissed S-10 V8 swaps. My question is how does Glad feel about them? The truth of the matter is that they are an affordable, plentiful 3000lb platform that readily accepts a V8. So what's your verdict Glad? Keep in mind that a great percentage of us live in the rust belt and 60's era two-door cars don't go to the scrap yard until they are truly scrap. There seems to be some interest in the area on the forum. I have always felt that Freiburger's stance on them was not fair. The magazine is supposed to be about "affordable street performance" by the non-professional hobbyist. Nothing fits that bill more than a V8 S-10. I'm running high 8's in the 1/8th mile for just about $3 grand and I still knock down over twenty miles to the gallon on the highway. Don't get me wrong, I don't want to start seeing them every month, but I don't want them unfairly ostracized because some people think they're "uncool". P.S. I know 8's in the 1/8th mile is no miracle but it ain't bad for a budget daily driver.
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Posted: 05/09/06 07:47 AM
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Seems like a great project to me. Alot of them came with manuals, so why not put that blown 350 in one, pull a 5 speed out of a camaro/firebird or 1/2 truck and take it to the track?
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Posted: 05/16/06 03:59 PM
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Bump and Ditto.
Mine will have a mid-seventies truck 350 with 305 HO heads, a freebie Eldebrock intake and a Quadrajet. Haven't picked a cam yet. Haven't touched the two-grand mark yet.
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Posted: 05/16/06 11:01 PM
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ha. crazy idea. why not put in that 455 they wanted to build?
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Posted: 05/19/06 06:03 PM
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ehh. im not really diggin' it. more for the reason that it cant be used as a daily driver......here.
im in SoCal. it'll never get past smog. plus in my eyes, trucks really are more for junkyard running than fodder for race car building. (yeah yeah yeah, they CAN be cool... but its just not my taste)
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Posted: 05/20/06 03:39 AM
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How many of the CC projects will pass emmissions? Is this why there are so many classic cars in CC because they are exempt? Move the CC headquarters away from Nazi land. Some of us live in a free country where emissions are not an issue but rust and Barrett Jackson jones is.
Are we to forever deal with SoCal's emissions problem? Maybe CC should quit selling their magazine nationally and be a local rag if everything has to revolve around SoCal. I personally hate the style oif cars built in SoCal, fancy wheels and paint suck sweaty magilicutties.
Not everything pleases someone elses taste. A lot of us work jobs that requires a truck, some of us need a truck as a daily driver, some of us own property and need trucks, some of us just love trucks and hate the whole truck scene because it's all about being pretty and scraping the ground, (Someone should flog the editors of Sport Truck magazine for even calling it that,) and a lot of us have a CC mentality and don't have that recreational vehicle gene, weekend warriors suck.
And featuring cool cars is boring. The status quo has always been mediocre at best. Jocks, cheerleaders, old farts and Barbers. If someone thinks that S10's are lame, all the more reasons to feature them. I think Chevelles and Camaros are for people going thru mid-life crisis, not exactly the cars that CC should be featuring, but you don't hear me poo-pooing every Chevelle and Camaro in a magazine feature.
The fact of the matter is that S10's are the best project fodder rolling right now. Try to find one vehicle that meets all the requirements of light, plentiful, cheap to buy, insure and build as the S10.
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Posted: 05/20/06 07:12 AM
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agreed, s-10 can go quick for cheap.
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Posted: 05/20/06 07:46 AM
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i do believe that MOST of the CC project cars will pass emissions. granted, the exemption of 1975 and older automobiles from testing is a big part of that.
not everything here in SoCal has big wheels and flashy paint. sure, my Cougar has 17s on it right now and actually has paint (a factory GM color i might add- no chamelon BS or whatever), but for years it ran around with BFGs, Steelies and dog dishes. Hell, it was even in brown primer for a good chunk of time too. when my Galaxie is ready for proper wheels its gonna get some Police Interceptor steelies as well. That car is mostly primer right now too.
Once again, most of it just boils down to taste. there are plenty of niche magazines that cater to trucks and their own cultures. Ive been a CC subscriber for probably 7 years now and their style of affordable muscle cars is what got me to read it and will continue to keep me as a subscriber. If you like it, great. It just doesnt do anything for me.
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Posted: 05/20/06 08:10 AM
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Name one truck magazine that caters to performance street trucks. Trucks that handle well and are fast and driven in that manner.
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Posted: 05/20/06 04:12 PM
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if it interested me enough to seek it out, i would. al i know of is some mag thats at the liquor store next to where i work. i dont know the name as well, im never interested enough to pick it up.
the problem isnt with Car Craft putting it out enough in the mainstream. the problem is with the core magazines within the trucking community focusing on BS like stereo installs, air bags, 20 inch rims and the other junk they focus on. if the readers of their mags wanted performance, they would ask for it. in my opinion, Car Craft isnt a sports truck mag. nor should it be.
some trucks are nice. a guy i know has a blown BBC in a 74 Shortbed. its a nicely done Pro Street job. more of a show truck, but he will still beat the #### out of it if you ask.
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Posted: 05/21/06 06:56 AM
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First off Pro-street anything sucks. Secondly I'm not asking CC to be a sports truck magazine because sport trucks suck too, or atleast the definition of sports trucks in magazine/SoCal land. I'm asking CC not to dismiss small trucks as a perfect project material, especially since the prices of decent starting points has become astronomically ridiculous.
It really doesn't matter because people will still build their trucks to road race and for the strip without the fan fair of magazine article potential, but it doesn't say much for fair journalist practices when not only do these vehicles appear right along side Camaros and Mustangs but are cheaper to find, build, maintain and insure.
In the past all the magazines had ignored great rodding potentials like Ramblers and Darts and Falcons and Delta 88's and FWD Caddy's, it's only now that the current editors are realizng how vacant the past editors were in looking past these prizes. Just a simple search on the internet will show how many people are racing and building V8 S10's, Rangers, Dakotas, not to mention the number of people who are starting to drag race damn near bone stock Colorados. Or maybe it's just a midwest thing which doesn't exist outside of the 90210.
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Posted: 05/21/06 08:14 AM
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i stand by my opinions but i believe you are on the right track with much of your comments. i just feel a better venue for an untapped market would be a different magazine that can cater to this much better.
By the way, not everyone in SoCal digs mini-trucks, rides on 24 inch rims and can order something from Starbucks that requires more than 6 add ons. Ive owned my share of beater cars, and to be honest, theres nothing more fun than owning a car you care absolutely nothing about. Id do it again in a heartbeat. Ive even done the math, and for the last 7 cars ive owned, ive spent a total of $5,065. not new crap either, the cars were a 67, 68, 2 - 69s, a 70 and a 72 that were part of that list.
But of course, im from SoCal so i must be an elitist whose main priority is to hold down any midwestern tastes and niche vehicular modification trends. so take that as you will.
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Posted: 05/21/06 01:27 PM
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Until I see pix of that Galaxie with 16" steelies and driving Primer, I'll have to lump you with the other metrocrafters in SoCalland.
Too bad we don't know an editor who could fix the street truck magazines at Primedia. (How can they do so well with off-road mags and not have a clue with real street trucks.)
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Posted: 05/21/06 07:59 PM
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well it doesnt have the steelies yet... but here.
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c201/sixt9coug/Misc/83520200.jpg
and heres my Cougar before the 17s and the striped hood. i still dig steelies.
http://www.mercurycougar.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=222&d=1003725919
Edited 5/21/2006 9:00 pm by Sixt9coug
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Posted: 05/21/06 08:14 PM
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sorry to post twice, but while looking for my pics of the Galaxie i came across this one. this one is the car show i took it to shortly after getting it running. thats not dirt.... when it rained all that crap turned green...
http://www.mercurycougar.net/gallery/data/510/440Galaxie_Knotts.jpg
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