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Posted: 04/19/06 01:24 PM
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Maybe CC should build the six, and build a small V-8, and do a comparison. I'd like to see that.
Hey there's an idea! Build 'em both and give them each a fair shake... I think there should be a reasonable budget set for each. How about a 300 inline 6 (or a crossflow-converted 250.. just to offset the cube difference..) vs. a 302 V-8 ... both with FI... 5 speed.... similar cams and mods, headers, etc., decent gears and a locker. Rebuild/resto the suspension and run them thru the paces of a road course/autocross, drag strip, and a stint of everyday reliability, including checking fuel consumption. Compare and publish the results... Then take each version to a car show and get the publics reaction/feedback. It might be a better read than the dry/dull "How to repaint your car..." (that comes around every year..). It may stimulate others to try and do a bit of experimentation on their own cars... It might even get me to go buy that crusty old inline maverick my neighbor has in his back yard, just to fool with!
No I didn't get where I wanted to with the "freind". I did with the next one though, who had a V-8 Mustang when I met her (and I'm Chevy guy). Any comments here about Mustangs (at least notchbacks) being girl's cars, or should I not go there? |
Nothing wrong with mustangs.. and I'm a Chevy guy too.. **LOL** |
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retgmcusn
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Posted: 04/20/06 07:22 AM
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I would like to see the build up of the six as well.
I have a '66 Impala convertible that has the Inline 6 and have already had it rebuilt. I'm currently stashing cash away for the EFI conversion and 200R tranny. Will have more HP than the original had and really want the MPG's.
Hey CC, how about completing my Imp too and then do a side by side comparison to your Pony.
Let me know when I should drop it off.....
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71 T/A
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Posted: 04/20/06 10:49 AM
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Build the six, use it to spank all the "10 second" street cars that everyone in the world claims to have, and then show them what beat them so they go home and buy a Camry.
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luv2cc
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Posted: 04/20/06 03:32 PM
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FORD GUYS.......LOL
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Posted: 04/22/06 02:53 PM
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Just to give you an idea of how far behind the times are for the inline 6 cylinder in the US.. check this out. GMH (GM) of Australia had a nasty six.. in 1969 and 1970! It was only 186 cubes, called the 186S, making 145 Hp and 184 ft/lbs. of torque with 9 to 1 and a 2 barrel carb!! There was also a performance version slated with 3 side draft strombergs pushing 160Hp!! Obviously there is a lot of room for improvements in our powerplants... hmmmm, that crusty old maverick the neighbor has is looking better all the time... **LOL**
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PwnsJ00
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Posted: 04/22/06 08:44 PM
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Pull it out and drop in a 331, if I wanted to see an inline six article I would have bought an import tuner or some crap like that.
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Posted: 04/23/06 06:15 PM
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its not always about being the fastest. sometimes being different is cool. i wouldnt even be concerned with building the snot out of the 6, just a rebuild, mild cam, intake and headers should do it. and lets face it, with the price of gas, we all might be building 4's and 6's soon.
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TommyN
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Posted: 04/23/06 06:29 PM
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Put a Vortec 4200 inline 6 from a Chevy Trailblazer in it and see how it does. Its 270 hp.
You could compare it to the same car with a 5.0HO swap. Perhaps the Vortec 4200 would be quicker and better on gas.
Tom
Edited 4/23/2006 7:30 pm by TommyN
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Posted: 04/24/06 02:48 AM
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its not always about being the fastest. sometimes being different is cool. i wouldnt even be concerned with building the snot out of the 6, just a rebuild, mild cam, intake and headers should do it. and lets face it, with the price of gas, we all might be building 4's and 6's soon.
Amen brother... perhaps it's time we build a bit smarter and not what's just easier. Good point on the gas too... who knows where it will go. (It's 3.50 a gallon for the "good stuff" here and it is only the middle of April.) My plan is to find a wayward inline mustang (fox) or fairmont and begin some experiments... (the neighbors old crusty maverick is just too far gone.. **LOL**)
Cheers, Mike
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vondutts
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Posted: 04/24/06 05:54 AM
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Ahmen to "build smarter" & "being different". I still maintain making an inliner quick & efficient lets one know that one has accomplished something. Question??? Since I really don't know....how difficult would it be to make this thing run on ethonal?
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Posted: 04/24/06 10:31 AM
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how difficult would it be to make this thing run on ethonal?
The idea of running on an alternative fuel is a legit idea... I think running straight ethanol has problems with corrosion in the fuel system and being easily contaminated with water. Perhaps another reader might offer some ideas on this... My friend in Australia runs his cars on propane and gas.. dual fuel, if you will. Hell, forklifts here run on propane just fine and I hear they are cleaner burning.. why not try that.. just think, you run out of gas you can pull the big bottle off the barbie and go cruisin' **LOL** We could all benefit if we just are willing to try and come up with new alternative fuels. I'll have to try to get a bit of information on the pieces needed to make the switch... it would be fun to try.. if more of us went this route, then the greedy oil companies would choke on the excess and they would have to drop the price.
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Budnik
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Posted: 04/25/06 04:03 PM
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Build the six!!!! I've seen some nasty rails runnin' 6s. They can be mean. Bud
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TheBat63
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Posted: 04/25/06 08:43 PM
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Well I would love to see a six article . The last one I remember reading was in the late 70's . I just do not thing it is going to happen. The motor itself is hard to modify in that the intake is integral with the head and where as there are ways to get around it , I really doubt that they will spend the money or time to do so . Remember they have that roller block sitting there on the floor and I betcha it has been targeted to go in there. Myself , I have thought how cool a modified 200 would be from the days when I had one in a Mav that was virtually unable to be killed.
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Posted: 04/26/06 06:08 AM
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Well I would love to see a six article . The last one I remember reading was in the late 70's .
Yes, I remember seeing an article with the usual bolt-on Clifford stuff... This new build should be more detailed, and more than a page or 2 anyway. (Remember when the car mags really got down to details?... like using chevy pistons and some other off-brand rods to come up with the mod? The dimensions were the critical part.. not the application.. I recall a aluminium 215 buick build-up years ago that was just like that... only a tiny bit of machining was needed to get the job done. This approach would be alot better than the typical bolt-on/advertisement type article.) A little internet research brought a host of interesting websites and ideas to try out.
I just do not thing it is going to happen.
Well, if enough of us yell loud enough, MAYBE they will run with it.. IF they have the kahones.... ya dig?
The motor itself is hard to modify in that the intake is integral with the head and where as there are ways to get around it , I really doubt that they will spend the money or time to do so .
Yes, that part sucks... but there are other choices, as you mentioned.... there always is the crossflow conversion too...
Remember they have that roller block sitting there on the floor and I betcha it has been targeted to go in there.
Yes, another mustang to v-8 swap... (Yawn..) then the rest of the bling must follow.. I know.
Myself , I have thought how cool a modified 200 would be from the days when I had one in a Mav that was virtually unable to be killed.
I heard they are pretty tough motors.. with 7 main bearings and a weak head design (which probably chokes the hell out if it), it likely dosen't put much stress on the internals... (Like a forged crank motor with a 2 barrel**LOL**)
Lets just pray they dare to do something different...
Cheers!
Mike
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Does10s
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Posted: 04/26/06 07:24 AM
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Everyone,
My wife and I are the ones who own the '63 Falcon with the turbo'd 250 that was in the March issue of CarCraft.
We're currently in the 11's with a very streetable car. This year we're going to be shooting for the 10's.
I obviously vote to keep the six! There are a lot of performance parts out there for this motor family and they can be built to make a bunch of dependable power. We're pushing 400hp with ours.
www.fordsixparts.com has the parts that CC needs to build the six.
This summer they will have an aluminum cyl. head with a "normal, detachable" intake manifold that should really make a difference!
BTW....Thanks CC for the article!
Later,
Will
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