The car is not priceless or rare, a 67 GT500, that's rare.  Anyway, behind the track shop I can throw a stick and hit at least 3 68-71 model Camaros and several old stangs like the one that was for sale.  There is even a 04 Blue Mach 1 setting back there with the rear tires shredded from drifting all day.  The guy said he would be back to get it, but that has been 3 weeks ago,  and what sucks because his windows have been down the entire time and he has the keys.  Anyway, the for sale car came from a salvage yard and was pieced together to use soley as a track car.  I do understand what you are saying in regards to those cars being priceless and rare. To see one in fresh paint and new leather, that's rare, otherwise it is just another old-school street racer.  I mean I am around theses cars on a daily bases and a 69 Yanko Camaro is just another car to me, I mean hell, I have driven the Signal Auto 2001 NISSAN SYLINE R-34, that's a damn rare car!  No other car in the world will be able to make me feel like that one did, check it: all wheel drive, RB26DETT Motor (Twin T67 Garrett Turbos), 885 hp, 740 ft lbs of torqe, 9500 RPM, 9.80 QTR mile times and is a daily driver.  I know trailer queens that struggle to run high tens and you can't even drive them to wall mart.  

"Why spoil a mustang by putting a rice motor in it and slapping a wing on?"

Well first off, '68 mustangs did not come with a factory wing.  The 69-73 mach I's are the only old mustangs that I know of that do. (with the exception of the bosses and some of the shelby's)  Second, I think nascar is boring and could really give a flying #### what car Dale Jr likes. As for other foreign cars, no I don't really like them either.  The Italian and German guys are too uppity for me anyways. As for that mustang motor, since when did you need to wind out to 8k to "drift"?  I always thought it was torque that put the car sideways, but what do I know about cars.....

As for my car, I don't have a chevelle.  (although I wish I did)  I have a 3500 lb camaro, with a sbc.  If i had my choice, there'd be a blown 454 under the hood.  Old tech does me just fine.  Since you're soooooooo knowledgable about cars, i'm sure you know turbos were being used by buick in 1976?  Or that fuel injection was being used in the 60's?  Or perhaps you know that they were using nitrous oxide in WWII planes?  Your turbo car is so more modern than mine...

Have you even read Car Craft?  IT'S A DOMESTIC MAG.  If I wanted to read specifically about chevy's I'd go read "super chevy".  If I  wanted to read about Fords, i'd go read MMFF.  Interesting concept huh? I like domestics, and that's my choice. This is a domestic mag.  I don't have to "learn to like" anything.

Dude, why do you even care what dale jr likes.  I like old muscle because it is fun to drive.  And you don't need 8k to drift an old car, I've done it in my 71 poncho at 2k all you need is a little torque which rice usually doesn't have.  As for your mustang, 400 horsepower is relatively easy with a sbf on the motor.  If you have only 400 horsepower with a blower, you've definately done something wrong.  I'll bet you have the stock cam in it, along with the stock heads and stock exhaust. Big surprise it doesn't run with the 240.  If you changed the heads to some good flowing trick flows, or afr heads(which are smog legal)  and put some full length headers and exhaust with a pair of high flow cats  reprogram the fuel system, maybe even give it better injectors and a high flow fuel pump.  Add a cam designed for blowers with a good intake properly port matched  and you might be looking at 500 plus.  Give it some good gears and BAM it'll be really fast, we're talking at least tens.  If you gave me that 302 I would bury that 240 so ####### fast it's not funny, and i'm not even a ford guy.  Oh and I've got a friend with a supercharged ford six that'll outrun a new ss camaro and vette.  He knows what he's doing, I'll bet you don't.  

"since when did you need to wind out to 8k to "drift"? I always thought it was torque that put the car sideways"

  That's not rpm, you have to be going atlest 80mph or more to even even get scored, once you start you have to do numerous turns and sometimes tandam drifting with another car side by side 6 inches apart.  It is  a wonderful thing to watch.  Power is NOT  the deciding factor in this competition, it is skill and a properly tuned suspension.  This was on Speed Channel, this past June at Williow Springs Race track where the D-1 compitition was held, the final three where the OSAKA Mopar team from Japan with there "riced out" Vipers.  Second was the Signal Race team form Torrance Cali with there Skyline. Third was Rhy's Mcmillen with there GTO.  The GTO, much, much underpowered, won.  The Swede took the $800,000 purse and went back to Sweden.  The year before that an AE86 (Rear Drive Corolla) won.  With only 240 horsepower and 200 ft lbs of torque!  All I ask is to look over these highschool kids with thier moms civics who put autozone #### on them.  They are just trying to be noticed and cool.  When guys like you assune ALL IMPORTS are ricers.  Do you know what gets the most, is the look on that C-5 owners face when he looks over at me at a redlight and sees a 91 240sx primered flat.  Then I beat him from light to red light and then hit 160 waaay before he does on the intersate, slow down, let him catch up, and take off again.  Done that this morning!  His expression was pricless, he could not understand what just happened to $50,000 + car.

I was talkin about your "redline of a dinosaur" comment. v8's don't need high rpm's to make power. Drifting is a subjective sport, unlike drag or circle track racing.  If you like it, that's fine.  I'm a drag racer.  Don't think I don't realize that there are fast imports out there either.  I've never been beaten by one, but I know they exist.  I just don't like them.  Kind of like how I like harleys and not crotch rockets.  If what you claim is true your car is probably quite a bit faster than mine, but I'd take my 14 second car over yours any day of the week. (it's a damn near stock smogger, so cut me some slack) Why? Because I like muscle cars.  If you wanna talk about your mustang you're in the right place, but your nissan doesn't belong here.

"If you wanna talk about your mustang you're in the right place, but your nissan doesn't belong here."

 I can respect that. 

   I will need some pointers for my notchback soon, but all jokes aside, my 240 is fast as ####, it's light and has a new Greddy T51 turbo pushing 18 pounds.  Anyway, I am going to do a Flamming River K-Member swap in my Stang next week and I have never done that before, any suggestions?  Oh, I do have Blitz coilovers on all four corners with the five lug conversion with disc brakes in the rear if that helps.  Because the K-Member requires coilover conversion on the front, so I did the five lug and rear disc all at the same time.  Oh, BTW, I am not a NASCAR fan either, I really prefer Formula 1 or CART.  That's racing, not going in circles and hoping your car does'nt blow or run out of fuel.  But those kind's of racing is for the very, very rich people, which I am not.  I have four kids and a wife, and I'm only a E-5.    So, if you want to start over, I will do so as well, I am officially apoligizing (did I spell that right?).  I just hate "haters" because of thier different.  I would agree though, those kids in thier moms Civic think they can beat everyone, but I am different, my car is not fake with a big wing, I can back it up.  And yes, it is going to stay primered flat black for a long while, it is definately a sleeper.

Hey welcome to the forum, since we all started off on the wrong foot.   Good luck with your k-member swap.  I know that those early 90's mustangs were very light, which means with the redone suspension and some good tires you could surprise quite a few people in the corners.  Have fun, but stay away from the black and white cars, they're trouble.  

If you can beat a C5 in your nissan props to you you probably know what your doing.  Just now that you've got all that power you might send a bushing or a gear in the transmission south.  Have fun with it and if it breaks make it stronger and add more power hee hee.  

Hey, apology accepted.  If you're into imports, that's cool I guess.  Not my cup of tea.  As for that mustang, what have you done to that motor?  I can't help with the suspension, to be honest I don't know enough about it.  I do have alot of experience with welding, so if you wanna know how to weld sheetmetal I can tell you.  I see ricers all over in my area, and almost no true fast imports.  Obviously you're not one of them, so i'm not gonna call you a ricer.  Have you met 7mgtzejoe or whatever?  He's a regular on a lot of the boards.  He's one of the most knowledgable guys on here when it comes to imports.

In regards to beating a C-5, it is not all that hard with the right car, take note that my car, (the import) is very light, 2600 pounds with me in it.  It is rear wheel drive (most people do not know that), 5 speed tranny with a dyno proven 465 hp to the ground thanks to Greddy T-51 and all the other harware needed to make it streetable.  It has Drift spec suspension front to back, handles like a Porche.  The C-5 is what, about 3200 to 3400 pounds depending on model, with around 390 to 410 hp to the ground.  Power to weight ratio!  My car is not worth even a third of a C-5, but to me it is, it's faster, and is paid for.  Catches everyone offgaurd, I like that. 

I am not reaally into imports, I am into cars period.  The 240 is based off of the American Mustang, believe it or not.  It is a great platform to build unsuspecting performance, Japan overbuilt the car, it is rear wheel drive, all four wheel disc brakes (1991 model!) and is really cheap to buy and upgrade.   Anyway, enough about that one, I have upgraded the internals of my 93 Fox Body with a Eagle crank, pistons and rods to hold the boost with a lumpy E303 CAM and some AFR Heads from Ford Racing to help with the increased air flow .  I wanted to stroke it to a 347 but it costs a lot of money to do that, so I just upgraded the internals and put a V-Q Trim Pro Charger on it.  It is set 12 psi.  I do have a front mount intercooler and people thinks it's funny because it looks "ricey".  Then I open the hood and I get the usual "Oh, OK I see now".  I am attempting to get the car a little lighter, to improve the power to weight ratio as I mentioned in an earlier post.  A "K-member" and some other stuff should get me started.  I have ordered a Carbon Fiber trunk lid which will be painted to match the car just like the hood.  The thing that catches other "car guys" attention is the 5-lug conversion with disc brakes on the rear wheels, that leads to a challange most of the time.  You can't hide obvious mods, but then again, you get guys in there moms or dads car and think they own the world because they can grab second gear.  You know the story.   Have a good week end...  

hey, i'm new here too, you should't apologize for anything. it's just the kids with civics who have clear tailights and a massive plastic wings and think they have something special that give imports a bad rap. i've always been partial to detroit iron and  i don't know much about imports but my dad just got an 02' Honda S2000 (its friggin' awesome!!) so i am learning and maybe i'm wrong but it seems to me that most of the brutally fast imports don't have huge wings and ridiculas body kits, most of the fast imports i've seen have been rear-wheel drive stock bodied cars usually running a turbo of some kind and and their owners have a real understanding of thier cars and know how to get power out of them. fast imports would get the respect they deserve is there were't so many fast and the furious wannabe ricers out there. and by the way i'm pretty sure car craft built an import a while back. 

"...fast imports would get the respect they deserve is there were't so many fast and the furious wannabe ricers out there."

Maybe.  But, IMO things aren't much different today than they were yesterday.  Consider that during the late 60s through the 70s, real muscle and their cousin-cars-once-removed were everywhere and readily available.  All you needed was a part-time job to pay for tires and insurance, and lunch money to pit at the Sunoco or Atlantic Richfield station. 

Believe me, there were domestic wannabe's and a "fast and furious" crowd existed back then too.  I'm talking the likes of '67 Mustang fastbacks jacked up with 6" shackles and air shocks, a go-fast chrome differential cover, pesky Thrush glasspacks u-clamped on to a spineless 289, air cleaner lid flipped over for extra power, etc.  The list goes on and on, and applied to all Detroit makes and colors. 

If you're young you may not realize that scenario ever existed.  But it did.  You rarely see it today because of the limited supply of the real stuff.  Point being, there are fast imports and wannabe imports...just as there were/are fast domestic rides and wannabe domestic rides.

Peace.

i wish i was around in those days, i stand corrected.