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Picking a New Project! - You Decide!  
Insomnya3AM
New User | Posts: 1 | Joined: 12/05
Posted: 12/05/05
08:02 PM

I figured you guys would know an answer to this if anyone would, and I'd probably enjoy your answers the most as anyone who reads Car Craft would have to have a similar mind as mine


Well, here goes.
I've decided to sell my Regal, and I've gotten a few takers for $6,300. It's a 98, mint condition, loaded, 89,000 miles. First and foremost, do you believe that a good deal? It's not signed yet, so a little altering may occur if you see fit.

Secondly, what to drive after I get my money?

I have a shop to work in, all the required tools, thats not a problem.

The rules are:

-I have to use it as my daily driver. Winters, rain, slush, everything. It'll be garaged though.

-It can only be out for a couple days at a time to be worked on, so no blown 572 Cavaliers. Engine swaps or something inside of a 4 day at a time period are fine.

-I'd prefer domestic, but looking at my small budget I guess I could consider imports too.

-A project dealing with a turbo is a big plus, always wanted a turbo car, but it's not a rule.

-Cool is a bonus. An ugly shoebox with a giant motor is cool on cruise nights, but I've got to deal with it every day.

-Driveability is not a problem, as long as its within reason. A harsh and loud ride is great, but dealing with a problematic idle and a constantly breaking motor would be an issue.

-AWD is cool, I enjoy it.

-Handling a plus

-GM is a plus

-My current ideas are a F-body, probably a 4th gen but money would be tight if not impossible. I could do a 3rd gen for cheap but those aren't too attractive. A turbo AWD Eagle Talon. A second gen S10 with an LS1. A bagged dragging S10 with a 5 link and an awesome bag setup. Finding a resonably priced Syclone/Typhoon/GrandNational and being done with it all. Or a 4x4 of some kind and give up going fast. THESE AREN'T THE ONLY OPTIONS! I'm open to ANYTHING, old is good too, but I don't think my budget would cut it!

I guess I don't really have anything more to say about it, just throw out any and all ideas. Keep it to real responses please, something contructive and detailed. I appreciate your help, I'm sure you've all been in the same position at one time or another. Past experiences with your cars are appreciated! Let me know what you liked and what you hated!
Thank you.

 

 

 
frankenchevy
New User | Posts: 4 | Joined: 12/05
Posted: 12/06/05
04:46 AM

4th gen camaro with the LT1


4 gen Vette


monte carlo ss aero coupe (if you can find one for that cheap)


73-77 malibu


73 74 el camino ss (came with SBC 400)


78-81 malibu


4th gen el camino


 


you can probably find a 4th gen camaro or vette well under your price cap and have some upgrade money left.


Don't leave out a notchback LX 5.0 mustang either those cars rock!


good luck on making your choice.

 

 
lobudgetallstar
New User | Posts: 3 | Joined: 12/05
Posted: 12/06/05
05:56 PM

 hey i drive an 88 5.0 mustang as a daily driver, its a great car. they are cheep to buy, easy to work on and parts are pretty cheep and easy to find. if you find a stocker or a clean four banger there are tons of projects for ya, if you like to werk on yer car. i love mine, if you build it right it will look muscular. bein in the rust belt i do have a winter beater so i couldnt tell ya about how it runs in the winter


 

 

 
lobudgetallstar
New User | Posts: 3 | Joined: 12/05
Posted: 12/06/05
06:04 PM

yeah, any of those cars you posted would be sweet, id drive any one of em.  


 
AmericanMuscle13
Enthusiast | Posts: 534 | Joined: 09/03
Posted: 12/09/05
10:10 PM

What area of the country you live in?  If you're going to drive it in salt, I'm going to recommend not building a daily driver hot rod.  You don't want to put all that work into a car, and then have it rust out from underneath you.  If you're in arizona or down south you're fine. It also matters if your area has smog regulations or not.  A sbc in a s10 is pretty manageable, and can be useable as a daily.  You've got a pickup bed to haul stuff, and more than enough grunt to spin the tires.  It would be my recommendation.  You wanna hear about imports, I suggest a different forum.

Mitch "I'm a Mean Machine, Drinking Gasoline and Honey you can make my motor run"-Guns and Roses
 

 
Iroczguy
User | Posts: 69 | Joined: 11/05
Posted: 12/14/05
07:39 AM

I think An 87 monte carlo with a tbi 305 would be a good car they get decent gas milage and are fairley fast and look pretty good and they handle ok and since it already has a v8 you can buy hop up parts and they could be transfered to a 350 depending  


 
Bowser59
Enthusiast | Posts: 296 | Joined: 10/05
Posted: 12/16/05
09:06 PM

Sorry you don't like the thrid gen - I didn't either until I bought one for my kid. I drove it around and liked it enough that I bought an IROC.  We ended up replacing his 305 with a 350 crate motor, and we had one of our friends do the tranny for a reasonable price.  With motor, struts, brakes, shocks in the rear, new tires, and the computer/tbi upgrades I don't think we have more than 4 grand into it (that includes the price of the car).  We did get a steal on the car, but there are so many around that you are bound to find one in good physical shape for dirt cheap.  We have to pass emissions up here, but even with that we were able to use a better than standard cam + a custom chip from jet, and the result is a car that has some real grunt.  Heck, it's a 350 on steroids pushing a car that's over 1/2 engine compartment.  Not bad.    Happy building - Bowser  


 
davracr
New User | Posts: 42 | Joined: 01/05
Posted: 12/27/05
02:04 PM

Here is a site that's great on this subject: www.joesfalcon.com  


 
Wulff406
User | Posts: 86 | Joined: 12/05
Posted: 12/27/05
10:10 PM

Why don't you build one like mine?
It's a 1987 Monte Carlo SS with a 406 cid 6-speed T-56, TPI from a 1988 Fbody I converted to speed density.
I think the Monte SS is the closest you can come to a 'chevelle'-type of newer car.. it has the frame, the room for the kiddies and it is about the same weight as the Fbody... and it looks tuff!!
When I bought mine new (it was stolen and recovered twice so you know it is a popular car even with the crooks!) I don't like the Aerocoupes though, it just plain sux, I think it looks wierd!
Anyway, I haven't had so much fun driving since I street-raced my 1965 GTO...
With the double-overdrive I can run my 3:73's and jump on the highway and drop to a little over 1700 RPM at 65 MPH.




Edited 12/27/2005 10:13 pm by Wulff406  

 
oneflywhiteguy
New User | Posts: 23 | Joined: 04/06
Posted: 05/22/06
06:22 AM

i think you should help me fix my 67 cutlass supreme that im having to rebuild a 455 pontiac screaming chickin motor into . at least until you decide. lol. then i can give you one of the motors ive got in my shed out back so then you can place into any car body you want relation to the motor and starter side. lol and they are a 455 olds. 400 442 olds., 307 old or a 350 olds the last one is a good one because they also put diesels in some model olds and you know what kind of block those took. bullet proof ones. lol .anyway . this prolly didnt help ya but i sure could use the help.lol . friends helping friends ... hell ya'

i rock, therefore i am...
 

 
Sams75Zam
User | Posts: 76 | Joined: 07/05
Posted: 05/24/06
11:19 AM

a 307 is a chevy motor, and olds diesels(don't even think about it)  


 
oneflywhiteguy
New User | Posts: 23 | Joined: 04/06
Posted: 05/24/06
02:05 PM

olds put 307 in alot of 98 regencys and in cutlass around early 80 s your prolly thinking of chev. 305 . even thought olds and pontiac are concittered part of gm . they are superior motors and are different in that the power the quality , price and motor acually operates in the opposite direction. counterclockwise. price a 350 chev. crate and a olds 350 or  up your lucky to find 350 olds if you do it would be around 3300 for crate when a chev 350 is around 1500


olds/ pontiac askes wheres the bow tie? response is back there....

i rock, therefore i am...
 

 
Twisted
New User | Posts: 16 | Joined: 05/06
Posted: 05/24/06
07:45 PM

1987/1988 Ford Thunderbird Turbo Coupe. Lots of options, great handling, 4-wheel discs, turbo motor, T5 stick shift with 3.55 posi, stock. Even has EFI, A/C, and heat to live with everyday. Wanna go fast? Find a no or low-option car. Want to have modern amenities? Find a loaded one with power moonroof, leather, automatic climate control, etc. RWD and made in the USA. I love them.

Michael Pinto

1988 Ford Thunderbird Turbo Coupe, 2.3/5-Speed, built forged roller motor, Precision SC50 turbo, etc
1987 Ford Thunderbird Turbo Coupe, 401 AMC/5-Speed street/strip car project

 

 
analogkid455
User | Posts: 104 | Joined: 05/06
Posted: 05/27/06
12:01 PM

   Oldsmobile made a 307 with a 3.80 bore and a 3.385 stroke from 1980-1990. The 350 diesel block was a different casting than the gas block. Much thicker. Most of the serious racers use those making anywhere from 800-1000hp normally aspirated. 1700hp with a turbo.



Edited 5/27/2006 1:03 pm by analogkid455  

 
Bowser59
Enthusiast | Posts: 296 | Joined: 10/05
Posted: 05/27/06
10:14 PM

Yea - It's my understanding that the main journals in those diesel blocks are the same size as those on a big block.  Conversions are indeed possible and strong engines can be made if a clean block can be found.  It's also my understanding that the lower ends of those diesels sometimes took a beating and that's why they were junked in the first place.  If I could get a good look at the bottom end of a 350 Olds diesel and could find a clean strong one, I would not hesitate to buy it for a build. 


The 307 is an Olds engine that I had to read up on to get familier with.  They typically are not a good builder since they have "windowed mains" which I have to honestly say I have never seen on an Olds.  That's to say I have never had a 307 or 403 apart before.  This type of main does not have full solid castings between the main cap bases and the block like you do on all the earlier blocks (like the 330, 350, 400, 425, and 455).  The 307 is a good basic engine that works well for road cars, but it tends to be a little punky for builds because the bottom end is a weak point.  403 is better because it is more like a big block, and is worth doing some bottom end reinforcements.  They can be made fairly strong and are worth messing with if that's what you got.  I wouldn't advise constant high speed thrashing as a race engine though.


That's what I know - Bowser

 

 
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