JAP-LAND?  Are you always so racial?  And also, "REAR wheels, where the power is transmitted", hey numb nuts, ALL 240SX's are rear wheel drive..  And to DEVIL DOG, are you a Marine? 

My Ass Rides In Navy Equipment, if not, #### you anyway.  I am in the arm services, no dis-respect to the CORPS, just playing on that part.  Anyway, back to the argument, I do race my 240 and Mustang.  Memphis Motor Sports Park.    I do agree on the "local" noise makers with thier autozone mufflers, but the rest of us with no-#### fast cars have a hard time distinguishing ourselves aparts from them.  We call them posers, you guys call us ricers, we call you guys greasers, gearheads, mullet tops and the list goes on and on.  It is a never ending circle.  For the most part I respect ALL cars.  And the Supra was made long after it was discontinued in the USDM Market, just like the 300z, the 240sx (KNOWN AS THE SILVIA IN JAPAN).  The thing that chaps my ass the most about JDM is that we never recieved the SKYLINE.  To import one is about the price of a Cobra or maybe a WS6.  But all this being said, somewhere, somehow we need to start getting along.  Here in the small town where I am, we do get along very well.  Every know and then we get a Redneck comming out with his 87-88 IROC and get his ass ripped by a Evo or something and tries to fight us all.  The funniest thing like I have said before, people who "don't know" cannot understand how a 2.0 liter beat them.  On the other hand I have been stomped by a buddy of mine with a Hennessy ZO6, that SOB is the fastest thing in town.  Runs 10.00 flat in 335/35 Nitto drag radials.

still you manage to avoid the point. how fast is each of your cars, and how much to you have in each. Its not hard to see how 2.0 liters beats some other cars, forced induction has its advanatages.  

Prices below INCLUDE the cost of the car:

93 LX 5.0 - $2,000, Built engine, will rev to 7,000rpm without issue (rods-pistons-crank-blanced and blue printed-done in 2003 then a Vortech S-Trim pushing 12psi was bolted on with a Greddy FMIC all that was around $6,900///K-member-whole front suspension coilover conversion and 5 lug plus 13"Rotora big brakes upgrades $4,000/// 5-lug 12" Rotora big brake in rear with 33 spline axles that bolt to a eaton with 373 gears, rear coilover conversion, carbon fiber drive shaft all that was around 5 or $6,000/// Had it tuned on a dyno and It is currently putting down 390hp with 435 ft lbs tq///Best RT: .010, BEST 60 FT-1.8, BEST QTR MILE TIME-10.9 @122MPH.  On the street I only boost 9 to 10 psi.  Car weighs in at 3100 lbs with me in it, full interior, complete car.  New paint job 2 weeks ago, Pontiac SUNSET ORANGE=$2,781.87.  That come to a grand total of : $21,681.87, this is over a span of about 9 years.  It is now complete, I know I will never get near that much when I sell it, but It is a VERY, VERY clean FOX 5.0.  Built the way it should have been.

91 240SX- $3,200, Built engine (SR20DET) at SIGNAL AUTO (factory crank, factory rods, PAUTER Pistons and rings), head ported and polished, bigger valves and valvetrain upgrade by HKS, blanced and blue printed will rev to 8800 rpm without issue $7,000///Upgraded turbo to a T88 and all the supprting hardware, 87 lbs injectors, JIM WOLF ECU, 93 COBRA MAF(MADE BY HITACHI-PROGRAMMABLE), I recently replaced the big ass T88 with a T66, quicker spool, GRADDY FMIC, ORC Carbon Clutch, Carbon fiber driveshaft, 1996 Infiniti J30 Limited Slip Differential with a Nismo 4.60 Gear ratio,. it is right now puttin down 430 hp with 380 ft lbs of tq, all that was around $8,000///Upgraded the brakes to the same as Mustang front and rear-$2300///JIC-Majic Coilovers-$1,300///Battle version Drift Spec FULL SUSPENSION front and rear (everything) $5,000/// Best R-T: .033, BEST 60FT-1.6, BEST QTR MILE-10.5 @131 MPH.  The car is FLATT BLACK, NO BODY KIT, BUT DOES HAVE A WING.  The mustang and the 240 have the same wheels, 17X8 in the front with 245/40/17 Falken tires, rear are 17x9 with 265/40/17 Falken tires.  The 240 weighs in at 2655 pounds with me in it.  Again, full interior, full car.  The 240 is faster because it is lighter.  Grand total = $25,500.  Again, this is over like 10 years of building.  They are both old, but I love them.  Reason the 240 is not painted pretty is because it catched EVERYBODY off guard, they look at it and say "old ass ricer wannabe" then they hear wwoooossshhh (BOV), I'm in third and out of sight.  Oh yea, my wife drives a SRT10 Pick up.  She's a lawyer and I am in the USN.  ALL THIS IS DOCEMENTED, IF YOU DO NOT BELIEVE ANY OF IT, OH WELL..  Have fun FLAMING, I know it's coming.

so the 240 is faster, but not by much. you still have a little play money to put into the 5.0 to make the prices match the 240. That would easily catch the 240. How much boost do you run to the 240? By the way, why even talk about selling the 5.0.  

I plan on NEVER sellin the 5.0, I love it, other people drool over it, it looks so good with the big disk brakes on all four corners with the bright red calipers.  It is not the money why I will never sell it, it is because I built it.  In my oppinion, if  you did'nt build it, it's not really yours.  I heard someone say that one time all it stuck in my head and is very true.  I will never sell either car because I can play on both sides of the fence.  And I am pushing the 240 with 18 pounds of boost.  If I pushed the Vortech like that, oh ####, I don't even want to think about that.  They would NEVER find all the parts to my block, not to mention I would send all the pistons into orbit.  But you are right.  Both machines pushing same boost, the Mustang would be within inches.  But hey, they are both MINE.  The 5.0 is fun to drive around town, people say "wow, pretty nice, runs good too, what will she do?, low 11's?"  On the other hand the 240 is where I get my "kicks", I guess would best desribe it, people are like "Hey man, she quick or just loud, what will she run?, high 13's low 14's?"  Then I lay down two black stripes 1st, 2nd, 3rd gear then I chirp 4th.  I am NOT bias when it comes to cars, just to the people who are too fast to judge and won't listen and get the information right on the people who own imports.  I will be the first to agree whith anyone, I do hate the Civic, Camaro, Mustang, Camry Auto zone muffler, sticker, slammed my car with big speakers, big ass wing 14 second wannabe.  I was never that guy,  I have rules to go by just like the rest of my crew.  NO body kits until you have wheels, no wing until you have a body kit, no loud muffler until you are boosting or have juice.  See the picture here.  We try to "minimize" the ricer polution in my area.  And as you know, it is not only the imports doing it, today I saw a 98 or newer (LS1 BODY STYLE) Z-28 with stickers on it from a factory I know for a fact is a VW performance shop only, had a big RED "R-SPEC" sticker on the fenders, LED Windshield Washers, with 20inch spinners.  Made me sick to me sick to my stomach.  I was in the 5.0, he jump at the red light, light turned green and after I hit second, I never seen him again.   

Yeah, and what good is a 16 second Honda, when for the same amount of cheese, you could build a 11 or 12 second g body malibu?

"Yeah, and what good is a 16 second Honda, when for the same amount of cheese, you could build a 11 or 12 second g body malibu?"

Yes that is true in some cases, but one has ABS Disc Brakes/the other does not.  One gets 30 plus mpg/the other does not/ one has a tuned coilover suspension/one has leaf springs/one can run up onto an onramp at 70 or 80 plus mph/one knocks off its mirrors from leaning over from the weight.  Can you guess which is which?  If you want a "DRAG ONLY" trailer car, sure build a 4 mpg, big displacement, torq monster.  But if you cannot afford that, buy an import (240SX, SUPRA, RX-7, NEW Z, LOW END BMW)  or a domestic sport compact (SRT-4, COBALT SS, FIERO, PROBE).  I have been working on both for a LOOONNNG time, both run tens, both can make a trip from San Diego to Norfolk without issue (done lt last spring, wife and I), both daily drivers.  I am convinced and have proved that YOU DO NOT NEED BIG DISPLACMENT FOR POWER.  And if it is the pushrod that makes it "not ricey", then you must love the new Nissan Titan pushrod v/8 pick up and the new Toyota pushrod v/8 pick up.  I am not flaming or disrespecting, but Malibu's are butt ugly, if any thing in that category, get a camaro or late 60's mustang, those are sweet.

Malibu's aren't ugly. Maybe to the guy who likes the look of exotics, but they are ok looking cars. Who needs to go up an on-ramp at 70 or 80 m.p.h? Thats asking for a car wreck. Just because its 11 or 12 seconds, and is a bigger car, doesn't mean its a trailer queen, or that it gets 4 m.p.g. I get 12 now with mine, and I dont have overdrive. (i think that beats a hummer). Sure you dont need big displacement for power, but you will need alot of money cause its not cheap to make 2.0 liters go fast. big displacement is for naturally asperated cars(more or less).

big displacement is for naturally asperated cars(more or less).

I completely agree, small displacemnet with force induction has it benefits and just big displacement has it's obvious advantages.  Big displacement with force induction is just plain insane.  Like my friends HENESSY Z06, not sure on what brand name turbo it has, but damn!!  I am convinced that if that fu#$%r had 1 more horsepower, it would be in the 9's.  It ran a 10.00 flatt on closing night at the track on Nitto's!  It handles just as good too, I am really impressed with it, sadly he is selling it and importing a 2003 GT-R34 through SIGNAL AUTO.  I don't think it will be as fast as the vette in a straight line anytime soon, but the cool factor is not even close in comparrison.  Yes, it is the all wheel drive RB26DETT version.  I am so jealous of him.

Well Bubba, Bring the rice burner here to Lansing,Mi. The street posers here are the 13 and 12 second hondas and late camaros with neon.

Stay up late and the real cars come out. Some are driven from accross town, on slicks and on race fuel. None are trailered.

Some launch hard enough to drive your doorstop under the front wheels, on the street.

I was for 3.5 years, a Toyota Dealer Tech, and have the utmost respect for the cars and the technology that they represent.

I don't have respect for the punks that are mostly seen in the import scene, wavin bogus finger signs for their clan of cavemen. Whadup?

Now I'll be the first to tell these guys that some of these cars are for real, the Supras for instance. The short block on many of these 9 second street sweepers is stock( read steel crank, titanium rods, forged pistons,and nikasil sleeved blocks.

Line em up?

Are you calling my 240 RICE?  You have Camaros up there with neon lights and my S13 is flatt black, no body kit, NOT ONE STICKER, it does'nt have nissan on it anywhere!

WHADUP NOW?  I will agree on the Supra part of your post.  The 2JZGTE Engine is a masterpiece, Toyota at thier finest.  The 07 or 08 model coming out I have heard is going to be a GT-40/VIPER/VETTE category supercar with a v/10, I no-#### heard at a SIMA show and also on Tuner Television.  Two separate places, must be more than a rumor.  Can't wait.  We are finally getting the SKYLINE, but sadley it is just a Sh#$%*Y Infinity G35 with the SKYLINE badging, very disappointing.   And it is tooo damn cold to drive to Michigan.  You come down here.

The summers are hot and so is the racing. Come up this summer. I'm really not anti japanese cars. I did work in the toyota dealer and loved it. I just hate the bling and the *** that we associate with it.  

I'm really not anti japanese cars. I did work in the toyota dealer and loved it. I just hate the bling and the *** that we associate with it.

I agree, I agree, I agree.  If you read a couple posts back, I am saying the same thing.  We all hate the posers/blingers/momma-car-boys/ you get the picture, that being said, the guys who do not have much money, who are not jack ass's or spoiled brats that come out to "run" with us that have simple mods and  not Auto zone leds and stickers and honestly try to compete and hang out we take care of and defend if need be, the others can beat feet.  As you know I have a 5.0 and a 240, the 5.0 is mint, perfect, nice paint and wheels,  but the 240 is now wingless, primered flatt black, has a 3 inch but very quiet exhaust, factory lighting and no body kit.  The very reason is that NO ONE bothers to look what's tucked behind my factory front bumper, a big ass 3 row Greddy intercooler that is also,  yes, flatt black.  That car is so fun, mother #### eats up everything, but I have had my ass handed to me a number of times.  That's what it's about, right?  OBTW, did you ever like the Supra's?  The last gen to me was the best, YOU CANNOT BEAT A 2JZGTE when it comes to factory specs, they come bullet proof, gotta love that!

Love the supra's, I had one at the dealer that was owned by a fellow employee that only had me working on it. Twin turbo 98. Fast as all hell, straight from the factory, and  much faster for cheap. Come on 07!!!  

Finally, some one who does'nt hate imports!  You are helping me prove that you do not need big dispalcement for big horsepower.  The 2JZGTE is an inline 6, 3 liter with twin turbos with a 6-speed gear box.  Those cars absolutely rock the house.  Also, the 07's are going to be in a whole different category all together.  They are going to be an EXOTIC, not an import (people use that word on Japanese cars only-kind of stupid-hell an ferrari enzo is an import, but they are called exotic), the 07's are running a twin turbochared v-10 mid engine platfrom.  Price range is still yet to be determined.  I know GM, Ford and Crysler are coming out with new cars and bringing back older cars, well so is Nissan and Toyota,  hell we are getting the SKYLINE this summer,  those are going to sell like hotcakes!