IN: DOHC 8500 RPM Engines

OUT:  Push rod 6000 rom engines

IN:  2500 POUND CAR WITH TURBO

OUT:  6000 POUND BOAT WITH BIG 400CI ENGINE PUTTING OUT A WHOPPING 300 HORSEPOWER (?)

IN:  IRS

OUT: SOLID AXLE

IN:  NISSAN SYLINES

OUT:  NEW VETTES

IN:  1993-1997 SUPRA'S

OUT:  CHEVELLS

Might I suggest some other borards that may suit your taste a little better:

www.hotrod.com

www.wrxfanatics.com

www.hyundaiperformance.com

The last thing that we need in here is another domestic vs import or 4 cyl vs 8 cyl debate. Look around. Theres been plenty of them. It gets old after a while. While we all enjoy performance cars of all kinds, this is not the board to trash V-8 american cars.

Before you reply with the typical response, no I do not have a mullet, my family tree is not linear, and I am educated.

First of all, l I do not insult people in that manner.  I respect everyone. 

Second, I do respect American cars, I have 2 (00 SS-SLP EDITION and a very fare 93 FIREHAWK LT-4).  I did have a WS6, but sold it to help build my 240.  It had issues anyway, (too much juice)

I love the 4th gen F-Bodies, but I like road racing better than qtr mile.  It is more competitive and is actually alot harder.  Just the cars needed to do it successfully are mostly imports, due to IRS, abs, four wheel disk brakes and rear wheel drive (all 240sx's are rear wheel drivee) are standard on them.  My car is a 91 and it has more performance qualities than a 88 vette.  There are only a few American cars that can handle the suspension abuse.  My 91 240SX handles just as well if not better that a 911, I am not saying I am faster, just the handling compared to either of my F-Bodies is night and day.  I am just a little pee-ode at the people that talk trash about imports and don't give them a chance because they are "not Amercian".  I am Amercian, born in Tennessee, and I have domestic and import muscle.  The 00 (SS) is the slowest of the bunch, my wife usually drives it.  My 240 is the fastest in the qtr and road track, but on the highway, my 93 Hawk has a top speed of at least over 170, the dash reads 160, it buries it in 4th gear and I have a T-56.  Just to all out there, don't put down the car from across the sea, they have evolveed into phenominal machines.  The Skyline is being released into the US in the fall of 2006, corvettes, beware. 

In: Car Crafting

Out: Hating on domestic cars on a domestic car guys site.

In: Listening to my V8 idle with its headers and 3inch pipes.

Out: Wasting gas for 10 min just listening.

In: That it sounds better than any four-banger I have heard.

In: Reading Car Craft and seeing all the cool old cars.

In: Learning from the Tech Articles to help me with my project.

Out: Car craft only puts Mopars in every other issue.

Out: New Editor from Chevy High Performance pushing about everything GMC and a little bit of Ford.

In: I am 23, my challenger is cool and I still learn stuff from some of the tech articles.

In: Having a muscle car in high school

Out:You just finally fixed the rust, and it'll be another two weeks before it's on the road.

Out: You graduate in 22 days

Out: your car is "slow" and a "sled" according to your class mates.

In: Blowing the doors off of the import "tuners" in your school, while it was still rusty.

Out: Them ripping on your car anyways.

Out: Coming on a domestic board, and ripping on v8's and chevelles.

In: 570 lb/ft at 4100 rpm

In: 560 hp at 6200 rpm

In: These numbers from a pump gas, streetable BBC

Out: 280 lb/ft at 6600 rpm

Out: 350 hp at 8700 rpm

Out: These numbers in a 1.8L, twin-turbo, $30000, DOHC, full-race VTEC or whatever its called

Oh, and just this last week a Nissan Skyline lost a drag race to a '75 Pontiac Grand Prix with a 455 (13.88 to 16.90). Guess you can't underestimate a "6000 POUND BOAT WITH BIG 400CI ENGINE."  

In: Paying $55,000 on a new 405 Hp Z06 Corvette                                   Out: Paying $80,00 on a new 280 Hp Acura NSX

In: Going to your local parts store to get some spark plugs for your ride  Out: Going to your local parts store to get some "Vtec" stickers for your ride

In: Wasting a guy's Z28 Camaro in your sleeper beater Chrysler Omni                                                                                                    Out: You drive an Omni                                                                            Out: Its a beater

In: you read all the latest Car magazines for the tech articles, cool pics, and good info.                                                                                          Out: You read Super Street and Import tuner-nuff said

You beat a Z28 in an Omni?  Dude, you are my hero.  I've always felt that beating "fast" cars in my 4X4 winter beater was as good as it gets, but an Omni is so much better.

I saw an omni on espn beat a cobra mustang in a final it ran an 11.9 and looked completely stock I could'nt beleive it.  

Actually, I dont have a GLHS Omni, I wish I did, but I know that they are fast, and probably can smoke the older Z28s...thats still badass!

caravan vs. camaro  LMAO

http://216.127.90.17/~admin1/Medium_WMP8/Minivans_Rule.wmv

One word: AWESOME!

The fastest k-car in the world?

http://www.unrealhp.com/video/kcar_vs_supra.wmv

thought Id toss this one in aswell even though it has nothing to do with anything its still amazing!

Sheesh.........

What's up with THIS forum...........

As I see it, Car Craft caters to domestic performance.  What are all you ricers doing here?  Not to say you're doing something wrong by liking those types of cars.... but  ..... what are you HERE for?

Gordon

Did you ever stop to think that maybe the reason your 240 is faster than you SS is because you put all your time and money into the 240. Put that money into the SS and then maybe you'd shut up.