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GMC90
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Posted: 11/22/06 08:37 PM
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I just bought a 370 stroker sbc that I just wanted the heads and valve train off of it for my 406 and when I pulled the heads off this relatively fresh moter the cylinder walls had no cross hatch finish left on the thrust side of the cylinder wall, I was under the impression that the 6" rods were suposed to help alleviate this condition!
Edited 11/22/2006 9:30 pm by GMC90 (GMC901)
Edited 11/22/2006 9:32 pm by GMC90 (GMC901)
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GibTG
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Posted: 11/24/06 08:15 PM
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Lengthening the connecting rods .300" sure isn't very much in the sense of rod angularity. Maybe a degree or two, nothing very significant and that is the reason why the power gain is pretty insignificant as well. I guess I don't have a solution for your problem but I suspect a fueling or lubrication problem.
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Moljnir
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Posted: 11/27/06 10:26 AM
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not sure what a 370 stroker SBC is made from, but I suspect that increasing the stroke negated the "longer" rods. Also, depending on the ring material that could really aggravate things. Cheapo cast iron rings eat cylinder walls for snacks. A nice light tension, thin moly ring on the other hand is pretty gentle.
Steve
Edited 11/27/2006 10:27 am by Moljnir (Moljnir1)
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Posted: 11/27/06 06:27 PM
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do you mean a 377?(de-stroked 400 with a 350 crank)
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GMC90
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Posted: 11/27/06 07:08 PM
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It's a .060 over 350 sbc with a 3.625 Callies crank.
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arcaguy
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Posted: 11/27/06 07:15 PM
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A 377 is a stock bore 350 with a 400 crank (3.75" stroke). Just for reference a 383 is a .030 over 350 with a 400 crank. A destroked 400 with a 350 crank (3.48" stroke) would be a 372. I'm not sure what a 370 stroker is but given the various parts available for SBC I'm sure it's possible.
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Posted: 11/27/06 09:09 PM
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sorry arca guy i guess i was mis informed thanks a lot for setting me straight i wasnt trying to sound smug i was in a rush and couldnt finish
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GMC90
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Posted: 11/28/06 05:46 AM
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This engine was built about 8 years ago and I believe that this crank was intended for an oval track class cubic in restriction moter.
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Moljnir
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Posted: 11/28/06 09:46 AM
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hmm,
Did that class have claimer rules? If so maybe it got built with cast iron rings, which are cheap. Can you talk to the builder?
Steve
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GMC90
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Posted: 11/28/06 10:08 AM
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This moter was intented for street & strip on NOS but never even seen a hit the only thing he did was run around town w/ it and not to mention he only drove it for 1000 miles. I guess I'll just bring it to my machinist and see what he comes up with maybe just a hone job will bring it back.
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Moljnir
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Posted: 11/29/06 08:34 AM
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Sorry I misunderstood the circle track comment. I can't imagine anything other than poor machine work that could take the hone marks out of a cylinder bore in less than 1000 miles. You know, poor machine work like not putting a fresh hone on a used block when putting in new rings.
Steve
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GibTG
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Posted: 11/29/06 05:31 PM
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But as per the topic title, the connecting rod length is far from the cause of the problem. If this engine has a 1.655:1 R/S ratio then it is even higher than a stock 350 (1.63:1) and we all know how dependable a 350 is. If the engine was intended for racing and ended up being "putzed" around on the street I really see a overly-rich condition being the problem.
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GMC90
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Posted: 11/29/06 05:37 PM
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No problem dude for the misunderstanding I'll take any good input. I just can't understand why this machine shop that he had do the work didn't follow through on a couple of other things on the machine work end of things like decking the block this guy would pop a head gasket everytime he spun it to 7500rpms and the moter was easily capable of every bit of it.
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arcaguy
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Posted: 11/29/06 06:36 PM
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No smugness taken. I just had some time to play with an calculator and some numbers.
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Posted: 11/30/06 03:28 PM
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preciate it
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