I just can't stand the boxy models they had in the 70's, the later ones were too heavy!  If you're going to spend all the money and want to be different build a Fairmont, they don't weigh as much and are Fox based.

1 year Update:

A Vortech YSi is going on now, and being converted to E85 so I can run high boost on the street and strip. Just finished custom 1 3/4 long tubes to help the head gaskets servive.

Will update again when completed.

http://members.tccoa.com/392bird/longtubes.htm  

I agree that I would rather see a T-bird build up then another camaro build up. However I think the gm g body is even more deserving of a build up. I think to make it more interesting the car needs to have the same brand engine (ex: pontiac grand prix with pontiac motor exc.) However if all that is going to happen is the project gets started and is in the mag for 3 issues then is stolen, wrecked, or the owner leaves the mag then forget it.

While were at it I would like to see a build up of a four door such as a caprice or crown vic preferably boxy eighties style. I am more of a chevy fan but a 351 in a vic would be cool.
Also i know it is a truck build but how about a gmc syclone clone.  

supercharged v6 made more power than the v-8s  

This thread is about why CC should build a Fox-based "Aero-bird" and not why it should build the over-exposed GM G-bodies!

Of course if CC just has to pander some more to the Chevy lovers, then CC should do a three-way project car shoot-out:

A G-body for Jeff "Mr. LSx" Smith

An '83-'87 Thunderbird for Glad

and a Diplomat/Fifth Avenue Mopar for one of the new guys.

or they could just scratch the G-body altogether and finish that Nova or the FireBirdturd or the  . . . .

But doing another (yawn) "GeeEmmm" project without something for the long-suffering Ford and Mopar crafters simply isn't enough.  

They're building a mustang for the Ford guys right now...so much for long suffering  

OH MAN!

One Mustang (that only appears a few times each year), and that means we Ford lovers just need to sit down in the back of the bus and be content?

Well then, why don't we just examine the overwhelming Ford content in the May 2007 issue of CC:

No mention of anything FoMoCo on the cover;  But there's still some hope--122 pages to go.

-- Page 10: "Frontman" -- asking if CC should buy a JY 460 for an outrageously low price (that is unavailable to 99.9% of CC's Ford-building readers)

(Isn't the "Frontman" question-of-the-month about like asking if you should take a scoop of free ice cream on a 100-degree day?  JUST DO IT -- and hang some eBay turbos on it already!)

-- Page 16: a Mustang (One of TEN Reader's rides)

-- Page 19:  A tire-smoking V6 Mustang rental  (now I know why I get hosed at the Hertz counter when I rent a 'Stang . . . to pay for all the goofs who have to do meaningless burnouts in cars that don't belong to them)

. . . and a "heavily edited" letter from some stooge griping about a Mustang in CC (apparently because he couldn't buy it on his $18-hour job)

-- Page 25:  An ancient denial of Autoweek's "four door Mustang" rumor from SEVERAL MONTHS AGO!

--Page 22:  Three tiny Ford "pix" (the Interceptor concept and a couple of NMCA Mustangs)

--Page 23:  A worthless shot of a new Mustang "Playboy" pace car . . . .

--Pages 30-31:  Holman-Moody (Finally something "Ford" with a little  merit, even if Hot Rod and other magazines have already done in-depth features on almost all the cars pictured.)

--Page 54: CC can't even fake a Ford badge for a generic tech story . . . . (Is CC really that afraid of those trademark lawyers Ford hired in Salt Lake City?)

--Page 65:  A letter about blacking out  a '64 Falcon (that must be the "Ford Tech" piece of the month . . . answered by that legendary Blue-Oval Guru JEFF "MR. CHEVROLET" SMITH.)

--Page 66: a tiny car show photo of a Mustang surrounded by dolls (one only wonders what sort of metamessage Mr. Smith and the other GM-forever  patsies are trying to send with that one)

--Page 72:  A chalk mark on a '69 Mustang hood latch!   OH!  I'm overwhelmed . . . I need to lie down . . . .

--Page 76: Crass and Bernie have the longest Ford-themed story in the entire May issue.  Is this the high point? A CARtoon Mustang sucking in a swap-meet t-shirt?  I'm about to fall asleep . . . .

--Page 80:  Six pages of musclecars . . . over fifty are identifiable . . . seven Ford products (only five can be found without a magnifying glass)

--Pages 86-122: No Fords . . . Plenty of forgetable GM A-bodies, though.  BTW, what kind of car is it that JEFF "CHEVELLE" SMITH loves?  

SUM TOTALS for the May issue:

Ford Tech = ZERO (excluding that tidbit about the chalk mark)
Ford Car Features = ZERO
Ford Engine Builds = ZERO
Ford Project Cars = ZERO
Ford Modular Motor info = ZERO
Ford Big Blocks =  languishing in some mystery salvage yard or already gone to the crusher.

Ford editorial mentions and photos in 122 pages: 21 (and I'm being generous here).

There's probably more Ford coverage in Super Chevy this month!

I JUST DON'T SEE HOW DOING AN AERO-T-BIRD PROJECT WOULD SERIOUSLY DILUTE THE GM SLANT OF "CHEVY CRAFT" . . . oops, I meant Car Craft.  

On the other hand, how many Ford magazines are available for you to get your fix?

How many Oldsmobile magazines have you ever seen?

Ford Chevy and Dodge aren't the only car companies...and they have plenty of coverage...maybe not in this particular magazine by your opinion...but you can go elsewhere to get coverage.  Its harder for people with less obvious brands...such as AMC, Olds, Buick, Pontiac even, Cadillac, etc to get worthwhile coverage.  And you are complaining?  Go back over the past year and see just how many Ford tech articles there are compared to Buick articles.  How many Cadillac project cars have they had in the past 5 years?  How many Fords?  Ford gets coverage...maybe not as much as you'd like, but they get coverage.

Everyone knows its Chevy biased...but sitting here saying Ford fans have been long deprived is a massive overstatement.  

CSIROC, I second that. I was looking at the grocery store yesterday thinking to myself "Well at least the Mopar people got their own magazine."  Even Pontiac has an obscure bi-monthly magazine.  Of course I went on selfishly thinking they need more Buick articles and completely forgot about Oldsmobile, shame on me.    

Actually, Primedia's High Performance Pontiac is a MONTHLY mag.  And its not the only Poncho book on the newsstand.

But to shortchange Mopar and Ford in a multi-brand magazine such as CC because one of GM's lesser, discontinued brands isn't covered enough to suit a dwindling number of fanatics is crazy. Any sharing to accommodate Olds and Buick ought to come out of GM's massive editorial space. In fact, most of us would rather see a real Olds over the monthly LSx commercial.  

But I don't imagine GMPP is planting many stories about Lansing's fading hometown hero cars (Oldsmobiles) these days. Kinda skinny on the Flint-flyers (Buicks), too.

Besides, Jeff Smith just did that $3,500 Olds.  So if Ford has to be satisfied with the occasional Mustang in a sea of pro-GM propaganda, I can't see how the bottle Rocket crowd is too prejudiced, either.

On the other hand, Fords are much more popular and common in Car Crafting than some of GM's more obscure makes. Consequently, CC's coverage ought to reflect that fact.

BRING ON THE FOX-T-BIRD project!  

So on the one hand you argue that popularity is the stick to measure how much space a make gets in the mag (Ford over Oldsmobile and Buick)...but you have a problem when the most popular make gets the most coverage (Chevy)?  Can't have it both ways.  Pick one.

And while they did do ONE article on the $3500 Olds, they have done how many on that mustang?  More than one I assure you...since I can count three off the top of my head (when they got it, when they put in the suspension, and when they swapped in disc brakes...I can't remember if the alignment story was part of the suspension one or not...if it wasn't, that makes 4).

Thats not to mention the countless mustangs that have been featured over the past year.

I agree Chevy gets too much coverage...but Ford hasn't been neglected...just because its not Mustang Monthly doesn't mean they don't get coverage.

As opposed to ANOTHER Ford project car (honestly whats the point of two...they can't finish one), I'd prefer a Buick...perhaps a Mopar...they can make a case about being neglected.

Support it as much as you want...if you get enough support they'll do it.  But don't pull this "neglected Ford fans" crap.  Its like the baseball player complaining about making "only" 9 million a year.  

I don't know.  I kind of take issue with the fact that I am a dwindling number of Oldsmobile fanatics. Look at car shows and it's people like me that keep things interesting. Among the seas of Camaros, Chevells, Novas, and ever popular Mustang, you will find the occasional Oldsmobile. It takes people to take the time to understand Oldsmobile cars, the engines and all the facts surrounding them. It takes some research to hot rod an Olds, and that's what most people would rather not do. There isn't much "out of the box" stuff floating around out there for an Oldsmobile, so working on them becomes a little more difficult, but OK for those of us up to the challenge.

Think Olds is defunct? Go and look around the web. Aside from the half dozen Oldsmobile people on this site alone, there are clubs, specialty shops, and even schools you can go to in order to learn Olds engines in particular.  So to say Olds is a fading light is being too simplistic. The fact is that there probably could be an Oldsmobile/Buick publication done if someone had the desire to start one.

Back to the point. Do I like T-Birds? The answer is yes. I think a build on one would be a good idea, and that's said pretty clear without putting anyone down.

My rant for the day.  Bowser  

Never cared for the T-Birds of that time. But I've always said that if I was gonna build a Ford product, I'd build a Cougar of the same period.

I agree. Everybody wants to build Mustangs. Why not the 82-90 T-Bird/Cougar? For the same reasons you mentioned.  

EIGHTYS BIRDS ARE COOL. BOB GLIDDEN PAINT WOULD BE COOL TOO.  

I like the whole idea as I have mentioned on this thread before of A Elliot style 'bird. 351W stroked to 396 say ? Then try to find a set of those NASCAR 'bird style flares? Not available but cool nevertheless.

As to Ford fans being neglected vs other obscure GM makes, No compared to Olds and Buick and Pontiac yeah we are given the royal treatment. Compared to Mopar about even . I really do not care if it is Ford heavy , the fact that there are numerous Mustang magazines makes it easy to find Blue Oval info. I just find the over kill of Chevy stuff nauseating . Yeah more Mopar stuff would be nice , a cool Duster build up. The 70-74 E bodies were some of the best looking cars ever built. Love those early (68-74?) Darts too especially with Dish mags. Freibergers "Cheap Thrill" I think it was Dart is still the best article to appear in any of these mags. I like Poncho stuff , a early Trans _am was THE ultimate car when I was in High school and I wanted one .  I could go for a Buick or two even some Olds stuff. The AMC stuff is great as well. How sweet are early Javs and AMX's ? The Rambler is great as well. But please keep the Chevy stuff in bounds . Cripes if I never see another red 69 Camaro it will be too *** soon. You know some of you GM types will say well they have too many Fox bodies in these Mags and they have their own magazines. Well now you have some idea , some, of how we feel about Camaros. Not to mention Novas , which are not even that asthectically appealing. Camaros at least have great lines, even if every article about them makes my gag reflex kick in .