"american muscle is going away..." yeah right beeeeeoooottttccchhh! if anything import muscle is dying faster than the ants under MY BACK TIRES. if anything the people going to import shows has dropped 50%and the people going to REAL car shows has went up 50% xplain that ####!!!!!!! 

pushrodz'll never die!!!

Long Live the Big Block!!!!!!!!!!

dude i'm with ya all the way but where'd you learn to spell?!

man... the guys at hotrod.com are ripping on my spelling, too.

I need help go to the racing imports are retards forum and help me vote for charlie

IMPORT MUSCLE??? Isn't that any oxy moron?;-)  

u mean "noT even close" right? or did you not finish yer schoolin'?   

Sounds like a liar to me...

I own an 01 WS6 6 speed and my sister happens to drive a 91 240sx.Not faster...now way it has better cornering and is a pain in the butt to drive.

I realize this thread is old but you would have to be an idiot to think drifting would be bigger than NASCAR even back then.Ask the average person what drifting is and they will start talking about sailing or some $hit.Even though its a bunch of circles and not to my liking it deserves alot more respect than spinning your car out and making a bunch of smoke.

Must have some fast 240s where you are but here in So Cal I have never seen one run faster than a 13.6... and that was a good night for that guy.

To end my response...who would go from a $25k dollar car to a 2500 dollar car anyway...why not at least buy a new *** car...maybe an NSX or something nice and not the same beat up 240 broken down on the side of the road every day.  

I am 21 and i love muscle cars and hate imports. However i dont fall into the trap of arguing with those jerks. if they think a civic with a fart pipe on it is cooler then a monte ss, good it will save the real cars for me and others like me who will put them to good use. I do get discouraged sometimes when i see movies like fast and furious and these dumb kids imitating it. Real men know their cars have power and have enough respect for that power to use it responsibly. unfortunatly i see lots of kids with imports driving them 100 miles an hour tailgating each other to show how "fast" their cars are. never mind that it takes 20 seconds to go the quarter mile in their junk, they think they are fast by driving like idiots on the highway. they dont get that even a ford taurus can go 100 mph.

anyway tonight i felt there is still hope for the future. coming home from my girlfriends i saw a couple kids hanging out at the local WaWa(7Eleven) with a 67 Camaro. I talked to the kids and one of their dads helped them build it. It had a worked 355 with a rock crusher tranny behind it and a ford 9 inch.  

Heck a few years ago in LA there was a police chase where a GEO metro got up to 110mph.  The police were shocked and to this day no one knows how it happened.  

I drive an american car with 412 cubic inches under the hood and I beat it to death every chance I get. Let's not get into street racing again but I do love speed and my car satisfies my need. My son has an 88 Prelude with a 2.0 engine that was getting hot so I told him I would check it out. I drove that car about an hour at 85-90 MPH and didn't use 1/4 the gas my car does.I can say imports are fun to drive but no one looked at me the way they do when I'm in the Javelin when I take her out for a spin. Old muscle has a history and most people have fond memories of muscle cars. I think my Javelin is more fun to drive but that little Honda sure did impress me enough to help the kid keep it from overheating instead of just letting it die in the driveway. I think the arguement between imports and domestics will rage on forever just like blondes or brunettes. Just let us agree on one thing, FAST BE FAST,NO MATTER WHAT'S UNDER YOUR A$$!!!  

Imports are like fat chicks,fun to ride but you dont want your freinds to catch you on one.  

good one mavman, very true  

I totally agree with you on that. I'm 18 and I drive an 83 Camaro. Sure I could have jumped on the import and drifting band wagon, but I grew up reading Hot Rod and Chevy High Performance magazines. I don't think all "young" people are into imports.  

I've owned imports and was never impressed with them. The first car I bought that wasn't out of nesscity was my '73 AMX when I was 18. I was raised around 4X4's and muscle cars. My grandfater was a local stock car driver back when the tracks were dirt and a fuel cell was a wooden beer barrel. My uncle drag raced first and second gen mustangs at Willow Grove Raceway. Heck, my grandmother bought a brand new '92 5.0 mustang at the age of 60. The first car I ever rode in was my dad's '73 Dodge Charger SE w/ a 440 V8. That was day he drove me home from the hospital. My other uncle owned a '85 F-250 that looked like the orginal version of the Bigfoot moster truck. So I guess its in my blood. It's the way I was raised.
 
 I guess its what a person is used too being around and probally some peer pressure involved as well.

 As for drifting, sliding around a course is not a sport. Not to metion the money spent on tires. Drifting has been around for quite awhile and its still not very big beyond import fanatics. I know alot of import guys who watch NASCAR on a very regular bais. When I drive my AMX, I spend enough money on tires, thank you. What's this about the Viper? The Viper was an idea between Dodge and Carrol Shelby. Chrysler sent their V10 from their pick-up to Lamborgini (who Chrysler owned at the time) to tune it up. Some of the peaple who worked on the Viper project were former AMC employees. As for your 2.4 liter DOHC, it has to work far harder to push out the same horsepower as a V8. It's more likely to break under that kinda stress. Those "dinosaurs", as you call them, made that much horsepower and more bone stock and they don't have the lag from a turbo. Oh and those "dinosaurs" will fare far better in an accident then your plastic fantastic. Your "jap scraps" have a place in society, but your insults in the opening statment on this thread are the reason we'll never be nice-nice with each other. If you show no respect for us, muscle car guys, then we'll show very little, if any respect to you import people.


-Shawn

1973 AMC Javelin/AMX w/ 360 auto, 1999 Ford Ranger 4X4 off-road package stock, 1986 Ford F-250 351 4-barrel auto lifted 33"x12.5"R16 mudders.  

yeah true car guys dont talk *** like you do but since you started it heres some info.  american muscle will always prevail and even if that odd chance comes and an import starts to pull ahead we can still put you into the wall and not have to pick up the plastic pieces that fall off our cars.  as for twice the horse power and half the weight good for you cause if your car is two thousand pounds and four hundred horse good luck gettin your tires to hook at the stop light next to me, dont care if you can beat me on the conditioned track take it to the street for some real fun.  as for drifting its all right if you're out on the street in the rain but i certainly wouldn't go as far as calling it racing. two guys out sliding around on the track trying to copy eachother, try going around there that fast and not sliding sideways and make it the first back to the line wins not the one that looks the prettiest wins sound kind of gay to me.  and last if pushrod engines cant keep up with you anymore(fat chance of ever happening) check out ford's v8 427 sohc they made back in the sixties and if that dont kick your ass then maybe ill give you a little respect other than that try to enjoy the cars and not think your style is better because you get good gas mileage, burnin lots of gas and haulin ass is the american way.